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Old 09-06-16 | 10:52 AM
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Old 09-06-16 | 01:18 PM
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I take it that this is another transverse-engine, FWD car-based crossover?
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Originally Posted by Sulu
I take it that this is another transverse-engine, FWD car-based crossover?
That's what it looks like if its based off the Discovery Sport(aka 3rd generation of the small car based Freelander and LR2). Kind of sad, as I always liked the old Discovery/LR3/LR4's image as the expedition vehicle with the roof rack loaded with gear, slugging through the mud on knobby tires in a country that doesn't have such fancy things as cell phone towers, much less electricity.
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Here's some more shots:

(The exterior, IMO, looks a lot like the current Ford Explorer)








(Discovery Sport model interior)

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Originally Posted by Sulu
I take it that this is another transverse-engine, FWD car-based crossover?
Very possibly though that would be a departure from the longitudinal front-engine AWD the Discovery/LR3/LR4 have been since 1998.

Land Rover developed a body construction method for the Discovery 3 (also Discovery 4), marketed as Integrated Body Frame (IBF). The engine bay and passenger compartment are built as a monocoque, then mated to a basic ladder-frame chassis for the gearbox and suspension. Land Rover claims IBF combines the virtues of monocoque and ladder-frame – though it makes for a heavier vehicle than a monocoque construction, compromising performance and agility somewhat but adding strength, toughness and adaptability.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery
Old 09-06-16 | 06:30 PM
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I hate what they've done to the Discovery.

Originally Posted by Sulu
I take it that this is another transverse-engine, FWD car-based crossover?
No. Same platform as RR and RR Sport.

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That's what it looks like if its based off the Discovery Sport(aka 3rd generation of the small car based Freelander and LR2). Kind of sad, as I always liked the old Discovery/LR3/LR4's image as the expedition vehicle with the roof rack loaded with gear, slugging through the mud on knobby tires in a country that doesn't have such fancy things as cell phone towers, much less electricity.
I too miss that image, but this is not based off the Disco Sport.

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Here's some more shots:

(The exterior, IMO, looks a lot like the current Ford Explorer)








(Discovery Sport model interior)
It's important to note that those aren't more shots, but rather pictures of the concept. While close there's some differences from the production model that hasn't been completely unveiled yet. Also here's a spyshot of the actual interior instead of a bad configurator picture of the Disco Sport interior:



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Very possibly though that would be a departure from the longitudinal front-engine AWD the Discovery/LR3/LR4 have been since 1998.
It won't be a departure. Also the Discovery has had a permanent four wheel drive system system since 1989 with the Series I, not when the Series II arrived in 1998.
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So essentially it's a BIG F U to all the lovers of the original Discos? Big mistake on moving away from teh body-on-frame platform. They already have multiple suv's that ride on a unibody chassis, what's the point of having another one?
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
So essentially it's a BIG F U to all the lovers of the original Discos? Big mistake on moving away from teh body-on-frame platform. They already have multiple suv's that ride on a unibody chassis, what's the point of having another one?
The Disco moving away from a body on frame platform was a given. It needed to lose weight and switching to unibody was the way to go. They also weren't about to create a new body on frame platform just for the Disco, as that would've been cost prohibitive. They still could've kept the rugged styling though...
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The front looks exactly like a Kia Soul...
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
The Disco moving away from a body on frame platform was a given. It needed to lose weight and switching to unibody was the way to go. They also weren't about to create a new body on frame platform just for the Disco, as that would've been cost prohibitive. They still could've kept the rugged styling though...
Just FYI, The current LR4 is not a traditional body on frame, it's an integrated body on frame, kind of a combination unibody frame. Best example of this is the old Range Rover Sport and the new RRS, old one was IBF new one is unibody...I haven't read any complaints.
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
Just FYI, The current LR4 is not a traditional body on frame, it's an integrated body on frame, kind of a combination unibody frame. Best example of this is the old Range Rover Sport and the new RRS, old one was IBF new one is unibody...I haven't read any complaints.
Aware, and it is still more body on frame than anything. You could still do this:



While the design creates exceptional stiffness, the platform is seriously heavy. It actually has weights hanging off it to quell vibrations for crying out loud.

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Old 09-07-16 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
It won't be a departure. Also the Discovery has had a permanent four wheel drive system system since 1989 with the Series I, not when the Series II arrived in 1998.
Thanks for the clarification
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