MM Mini-Review/Test-Drive: 2017 Buick LaCrosse
10-02-16, 02:06 PM
#46
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Or they'll get run over and killed by their new car that they aren't familiar with.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...sh-age-27.html
Then they'll issue a recall on the bad design once somebody is killed, for something that didn't need to be changed in the first place. Notice that on the new 2016-2017 Grand Cherokee they went back to a traditional shift mechanism with actual detents on the lever. Nobody needed to die because the Jeep designers decided to make a gimmick out of changing gears to make the car seem more "futuristic" or whatever their idea was behind that bad design.
The other thing is YOU might be familiar with how the shifter works in your car. People in general are dumb(no disrespect to Mr Yelchin), the shift mechanism has been the same for DECADES. Give somebody that crazy Buick joystick or that bad design in the Grand Cherokee as a rental car, watch them bump into something because the car rolled the wrong way thinking they were in drive while instead were in reverse, were still in drive instead of park and took their foot off the brake, etc. Same thing if somebody has to move your car in the driveway or something and they flub it up.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...sh-age-27.html
Then they'll issue a recall on the bad design once somebody is killed, for something that didn't need to be changed in the first place. Notice that on the new 2016-2017 Grand Cherokee they went back to a traditional shift mechanism with actual detents on the lever. Nobody needed to die because the Jeep designers decided to make a gimmick out of changing gears to make the car seem more "futuristic" or whatever their idea was behind that bad design.
The other thing is YOU might be familiar with how the shifter works in your car. People in general are dumb(no disrespect to Mr Yelchin), the shift mechanism has been the same for DECADES. Give somebody that crazy Buick joystick or that bad design in the Grand Cherokee as a rental car, watch them bump into something because the car rolled the wrong way thinking they were in drive while instead were in reverse, were still in drive instead of park and took their foot off the brake, etc. Same thing if somebody has to move your car in the driveway or something and they flub it up.
10-02-16, 02:13 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
I would start the shorter reviews right away with the Lincoln
10-02-16, 02:37 PM
#48
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I also have to agree with some previous posts that (maybe) Cadillac did it this way with the CT6 because they expected the media age of CT6 buyers to be higher than that of the XT5....and less able to adapt to complex shifters.
BTW, one of my colleagues at church this morning (about my age) pulled up with a brand-new silver XT5....just got it last week. (I of course, had a bottle of you-kno-what for him)
He told me the same thing.....great vehicle, he loves it, but the shifter took a lot of practice and was frustrating.
The reason the CT6 does not have a style shifter as the XT5 does is not because they need to save cost in the XT5, I don't buy that a joystick style shifter is less expensive than a traditional style shifter, its about demographics. The CT6 is aimed at an older demographic.
10-02-16, 02:45 PM
#49
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We've spent a lot of time in this thread talking about shifters, but the new Lacrosse also has other features that I think are worthy of discussion. Perhaps what impressed me the most was the overall fit/finish (except for the cheaply-done steering column and stalks), solid-feeling sheet metal, and high-quality materials inside and outside. Upper-trim levels also use real polished wood, not the fake stuff. No, this is NOT your father's Buick LOL.
10-02-16, 02:52 PM
#50
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Glad they realized it needs real wood in upper trims.
I'll have to go drive one. I wouldn't be interested in the Impala, Chevys are a little hillbilly for me, but the package in the Lacrosse wouldn't have that issue.
I'll have to go drive one. I wouldn't be interested in the Impala, Chevys are a little hillbilly for me, but the package in the Lacrosse wouldn't have that issue.
10-02-16, 03:09 PM
#51
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On your test-drive, I'd recommend one with 18" wheels, unless firm, sport-sedan characteristics are important to you...I think you'll find the 18's a good overall ride/handling trade-off. Unfortunately, you're stuck with the on/off system for the engine...there's no way to shut it off. And (though I don't want to sound like a broken phonograph record here LOL)
........you'll probably need to spend at least a few minutes practicing with the shifter before you actually take off. Some of the ones in stock have a nice little removable card attached to the shifter, that shows its basic motions.
10-02-16, 09:01 PM
#52
The thing about the Impala is it has a really wonky dash design. Its just strange/ugly IMO. I'd buy the Buick over the Impala just for that reason alone, even though I think the Impala is a better looking car on the outside.
10-02-16, 09:10 PM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
I have always thought the length vs the wide of the vehicle makes it look like a wiener dog car. Dash looks strange too. But a lot of reviews like the interior.
10-02-16, 09:37 PM
#54
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10-02-16, 10:03 PM
#55
Yeah but the dash design is something I have to look at the whole time I'm driving the car. If I don't like it, it can be a deal breaker for me.
10-03-16, 08:07 PM
#56
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10-04-16, 06:25 AM
#57
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Well, at least once they get the Genesis brand going. But, until they get their own exclusive dealerships (which will take time and money), even the Genesis brand will also have Lincoln's problem.
(if you remember one of my other recent posts in another thread, that may be a good ultimate role for any Caddy dealerships that are going to end up being closed in their downsizing).
(if you remember one of my other recent posts in another thread, that may be a good ultimate role for any Caddy dealerships that are going to end up being closed in their downsizing).
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-04-16 at 06:42 AM.
10-04-16, 06:39 AM
#58
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Also, new buyers wont have to spend any time in a Hyundai dealer. Genesis owners can have their cars picked up for them, serviced, and then returned at their home or office.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 10-04-16 at 06:47 AM.
10-04-16, 06:47 AM
#59
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Also, new buyers wont have to spend any time in a Hyundai dealer. Genesis owners can have their cars picked up for them, serviced, and then returned at their home or office.
10-04-16, 03:03 PM
#60
Getting back to the LaCrosse, IMO its competing with the Impala for sales as well, something GM is notorious for doing in the past, I just don't see that much of a differentiation between the two cars, both are big FWD sedans, around the same price, both GM, both drive similarly, IMO you just pick which one you think looks the best.
Last edited by Aron9000; 10-04-16 at 03:06 PM.