Germany Looking To Go Emissions-Free By 2030
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Germany Looking To Go Emissions-Free By 2030
A senior official of the German government stated that all new cars registered in Germany will need to be emissions-freeby the year 2030.
If the Germans hope to cut 80%-95% of their carbon dioxide output by 2050, as they've pledged in the past, they need to radically reduce transportation pollution, according to Deputy Economy Minister Rainer Baake.
"Fact is there's been no reduction at all in CO2 emissions by transport since 1990. We don't have any answers to cut truck emissions right now but we do have answers for cars."
One clear solution would be to expedite the adoption of electric cars, as it would certainly help the country's commitment to reducing emissions by 40% before the year 2020 - compared to those 1990-levels. Chancellor Merkel's government will attempt to speed emission-free sales this year within the automotive industry, with cash incentivesproving to the be best solutions thus far in other markets such as China, Norway and France.
According to the Environment Ministry, this program would help automakers sell around 500,000 electric cars within the next 4 years alone.
In terms of purely electric cars, they might hold down about 8% of the market by 2025, as opposed to just 0.6% today - with the government planning to put 1 million hybrid and battery plug-in vehicles on the road by 2020, a number that should grow to 6 million by 2030, as reported by TheGlobeAndMail.
Only 130,000 hybrids and 25,000 full-electric cars were registered on German roads by January of this year, in contrast to 30 million gasoline cars and 14,5 million diesels.
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/06/ger...s-free-by.html
If the Germans hope to cut 80%-95% of their carbon dioxide output by 2050, as they've pledged in the past, they need to radically reduce transportation pollution, according to Deputy Economy Minister Rainer Baake.
"Fact is there's been no reduction at all in CO2 emissions by transport since 1990. We don't have any answers to cut truck emissions right now but we do have answers for cars."
One clear solution would be to expedite the adoption of electric cars, as it would certainly help the country's commitment to reducing emissions by 40% before the year 2020 - compared to those 1990-levels. Chancellor Merkel's government will attempt to speed emission-free sales this year within the automotive industry, with cash incentivesproving to the be best solutions thus far in other markets such as China, Norway and France.
According to the Environment Ministry, this program would help automakers sell around 500,000 electric cars within the next 4 years alone.
In terms of purely electric cars, they might hold down about 8% of the market by 2025, as opposed to just 0.6% today - with the government planning to put 1 million hybrid and battery plug-in vehicles on the road by 2020, a number that should grow to 6 million by 2030, as reported by TheGlobeAndMail.
Only 130,000 hybrids and 25,000 full-electric cars were registered on German roads by January of this year, in contrast to 30 million gasoline cars and 14,5 million diesels.
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/06/ger...s-free-by.html
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So German politicians plan on destroying the German car industry in 14 years? Did the people of Germany want this or is another hairbrained idea by their politicians. What do the car industries think of this? As long as their highways are full of trucks and other equipment with diesel engines it won't make much difference. Diesel's are the problem in Europe, not the gasoline IC engine. Going all electric will just shift the problem elsewhere and likely create more problems and what about the fact that hybrids and electrics are poor sellers. Good luck with that, German politicians have been on a roll the past few years with some really stupid policy and decisions that have hurt the country.
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Electric cars just shift the air pollution problem over to the electric grid. That means more power plants, more windmills(I know I'd hate to live next to those stupid things), more nuclear plants, more coal plants, etc. I don't know how green Germany's power grid is, but if you want to cut emissions, that is the place to start. And stop subsidizing diesel fuel for cars, as that policy has led to fouling Europe's air more than anything else in the past 20 years. Get your fleet back to running on gas, we have much cleaner air in the US due to this fact alone.
Also I agree with Udel, I don't see how this is possible without destroying the German auto industry. Hydrogen fuel for cars, we still haven't cracked the nut on how to make the fuel affordable, so I see the internal combustion engine staying around for A LONG TIME. Electric cars, unless the tech changes significantly in the future, are going to continue to be a novelty(keep in mind that the range with current batteries in freezing temperatures is cut anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2). Guess what, Germany is freaking cold in the winter, its not a paradise like California where it never gets cold and the batteries in your Tesla are a lot more effective.
Also I agree with Udel, I don't see how this is possible without destroying the German auto industry. Hydrogen fuel for cars, we still haven't cracked the nut on how to make the fuel affordable, so I see the internal combustion engine staying around for A LONG TIME. Electric cars, unless the tech changes significantly in the future, are going to continue to be a novelty(keep in mind that the range with current batteries in freezing temperatures is cut anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2). Guess what, Germany is freaking cold in the winter, its not a paradise like California where it never gets cold and the batteries in your Tesla are a lot more effective.
Last edited by Aron9000; 10-05-16 at 03:03 PM.
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Electric cars just shift the air pollution problem over to the electric grid. That means more power plants, more windmills(I know I'd hate to live next to those stupid things), more nuclear plants, more coal plants, etc. I don't know how green Germany's power grid is, but if you want to cut emissions, that is the place to start. And stop subsidizing diesel fuel for cars, as that policy has led to fouling Europe's air more than anything else in the past 20 years. Get your fleet back to running on gas, we have much cleaner air in the US due to this fact alone.
Also I agree with Udel, I don't see how this is possible without destroying the German auto industry. Hydrogen fuel for cars, we still haven't cracked the nut on how to make the fuel affordable, so I see the internal combustion engine staying around for A LONG TIME. Electric cars, unless the tech changes significantly in the future, are going to continue to be a novelty(keep in mind that the range with current batteries in freezing temperatures is cut anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2). Guess what, Germany is freaking cold in the winter, its not a paradise like California where it never gets cold and the batteries in your Tesla are a lot more effective.
Also I agree with Udel, I don't see how this is possible without destroying the German auto industry. Hydrogen fuel for cars, we still haven't cracked the nut on how to make the fuel affordable, so I see the internal combustion engine staying around for A LONG TIME. Electric cars, unless the tech changes significantly in the future, are going to continue to be a novelty(keep in mind that the range with current batteries in freezing temperatures is cut anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2). Guess what, Germany is freaking cold in the winter, its not a paradise like California where it never gets cold and the batteries in your Tesla are a lot more effective.
In order to free up the grid and electricity comming from region centralized plant we should go ahead and seek the autonomous energy production. With right subsidies for not only single household but for brand new residential towers and communities could generate their own energy to power up cars. That is the future and it could be done today.
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So German politicians plan on destroying the German car industry in 14 years? Did the people of Germany want this or is another hairbrained idea by their politicians. What do the car industries think of this? As long as their highways are full of trucks and other equipment with diesel engines it won't make much difference. Diesel's are the problem in Europe, not the gasoline IC engine. Going all electric will just shift the problem elsewhere and likely create more problems and what about the fact that hybrids and electrics are poor sellers. Good luck with that, German politicians have been on a roll the past few years with some really stupid policy and decisions that have hurt the country.
In reality, Germany keeps successfully lobbying delaying new EU fuel/emission measurement standards to protect their own industry, I believe latest talk is 2019 at earliest... thats despite all this VW drama... in reality, nothing is changing.
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If they are serious about reducing emissions, it will have to be a society-wide effort; the auto industry cannot do it alone. Discourage petroleum-burning cars and encourage electric vehicles, while investing in cleaner sources of electricity generation. With vision and the will to do it, it can be done. In 1961, President John F. Kennedy articulated the vision of "landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth", and 8 years later, it was accomplished.
The German auto industry will get through it, and if any automaker does not, it deserves to die. They are all working on EVs now (just look at what Mercedes-Benz, BMW and VW are showing at all the recent international autoshows), and with appropriate government policies, there will be growing demand for hybrids and EVs. Just look at Norway.
Petroleum-burning cars have greatly outsold hybrids and EVs up to now because the governments have been encouraging (and even subsidizing, in various ways) petroleum-burning while not encouraging hybrids and EVs. But governments can encourage EVs by building the different infrastructure needed for EVs. Private industry alone will not build this infrastructure with government vision and policies.
The German auto industry will get through it, and if any automaker does not, it deserves to die. They are all working on EVs now (just look at what Mercedes-Benz, BMW and VW are showing at all the recent international autoshows), and with appropriate government policies, there will be growing demand for hybrids and EVs. Just look at Norway.
Petroleum-burning cars have greatly outsold hybrids and EVs up to now because the governments have been encouraging (and even subsidizing, in various ways) petroleum-burning while not encouraging hybrids and EVs. But governments can encourage EVs by building the different infrastructure needed for EVs. Private industry alone will not build this infrastructure with government vision and policies.
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If they are serious about reducing emissions, it will have to be a society-wide effort; the auto industry cannot do it alone. Discourage petroleum-burning cars and encourage electric vehicles, while investing in cleaner sources of electricity generation. With vision and the will to do it, it can be done. In 1961, President John F. Kennedy articulated the vision of "landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth", and 8 years later, it was accomplished.
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Yes, you have wind/solar/water-power, but these sources have limitations, and can't be depended on. Winds die down, water-levels can drop from drought, and the sun sets at night....cloudy days can also limit how much of the sun's energy reaches the gerund.
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-05-16 at 10:47 PM.
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You named some of them. All power sources have limitations if we wait for the perfect solution by then we'll have run out of oil. Battery and solar tech improves every year, cars and home battery storage preserve daytime captured energy. But okay let's say all of that is crap so what's your solution to getting away from burning oil.
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But okay let's say all of that is crap
so what's your solution to getting away from burning oil?