Genesis G90 reviews and news
12-21-17, 02:03 PM
#541
Lexus Fanatic
This is when it would (maybe) be nice for Genesis to work on the former Hyundai Veracruz SUV, which was one step above the Santa Fe in size and refinement. The only thing I remember about the Veracruz I didn't like, after I did my review, was that the steering gear and steering-wheel angle made it feel like you were driving a school bus LOL....it had virtually no feedback whatsoever, but that's something that Genesis can re-program.
12-21-17, 04:23 PM
#542
Lexus Fanatic
Genesis deserves better than a redone ancient Hyundai model they haven’t made for several years 
12-21-17, 04:28 PM
#543
Lexus Fanatic
while we are at it, why not bring back the KIA Boreggo to fight the GX. I don't understand all the living in the past. Genesis needs a volume sedan and volume SUV IMO, they need to copy the ES as Cadillac falls to do it and need something like a RX.
12-21-17, 04:29 PM
#544
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
while we are at it, why not bring back the KIA Boreggo to fight the GX. I don't understand all the living in the past. Genesis needs a volume sedan and volume SUV IMO, they need to copy the ES as Cadillac falls to do it and need something like a RX.
Then what would you two suggest...an all new SUV from scratch? Right now, they probably don't have the money for that, especially with the G70 coming out, which drew off some development funds. They can't even afford stand-alone dealerships right now....though we would probably all agree that they are doing some nice sedans.
12-21-17, 04:30 PM
#545
Lexus Fanatic
Exactly LOL. I don’t think they need to go making FWD platform engineered cars like Lexus though, I’d like to see them come out with a crossover based off of one of their RWD sedan platform, and their management has said no FWD cars.
12-21-17, 04:38 PM
#546
Lexus Fanatic
Disagree. Lexus makes money and serves up middle America well because of their FWD ES and RX, the LS, GS and GX and LX are the catalyst to help make people want to look at Lexus. Most people can't afford anything more than the ES or RX but they feel good about them because the Lexus brand has something at the top end to aspire to.
Yet you keep going on and on how the Hyundai brand (Genesis included) is on the same level as Toyota.
Yet you keep going on and on how the Hyundai brand (Genesis included) is on the same level as Toyota.
12-21-17, 04:47 PM
#547
Lexus Fanatic
Hyundai obviously is not as large an automaker as Toyota. And their engines/transmissions won't necessarily run any further (or as far) without problems. But, IMO, they come from the factory more solidly-screwed together, with better materials inside end out. I looked at a Toyota C-HR recently where the whole plastic panel that covers the lower dash wasn't even aligned or attached properly....it had sprung out at an angle, and partly covered the start/stop button to where you couldn't push it. (I couldn't fix it with the tools I carried wth me....I tried). This, from the so-called quality-masters.
12-21-17, 05:01 PM
#548
Lexus Fanatic
BTW, check this out. According to CR, Genesis ranks #3 among brands in customer satisfaction.....even without SUVs.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car...tion/car-brands-ranked-by-owner-satisfaction/
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(yes, I know.....Buick's overall satisfaction wasn't that good LOL)
https://www.consumerreports.org/car...tion/car-brands-ranked-by-owner-satisfaction/
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(yes, I know.....Buick's overall satisfaction wasn't that good LOL)
12-21-17, 05:02 PM
#549
Lexus Champion
Then what would you two suggest...an all new SUV from scratch? Right now, they probably don't have the money for that, especially with the G70 coming out, which drew off some development funds. They can't even afford stand-alone dealerships right now....though we would probably all agree that they are doing some nice sedans.
When I went to the Los Angeles car show earlier this month, I had VIP tickets, and was allowed into a Q&A sessions with several of the Luxury Brands, Genesis was one of them.
12-21-17, 05:07 PM
#550
Lexus Fanatic
Not surprising that the lion's share will be in SoCal...traditionally the center of the country's car culture.Actually, the full-Genesis dealership closest to my house is quite impressive, even though it shares its facilities with Hyundai. It's part of a literally enormous dealer-complex near Dulles airport where ALL of the dealerships are huge, new, and impressive. Steve (SW15GS) can vouch for that...he's been there.
There's a smaller Genesis shop closer to my house, but they only handle the G80, not the G90....the G90 is reserved for only the biggest and/or best Hyundai shops.
When I went to the Los Angeles car show earlier this month, I had VIP tickets, and was allowed into a Q&A sessions with several of the Luxury Brands, Genesis was one of them.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-21-17 at 05:12 PM.
12-21-17, 05:07 PM
#551
Lexus Champion
actually the Genesis brick and mortar dealerships will be opening quarter 4 of 2018, 18 of them opening simultaneously across the US in the highest Hyundai selling markets, 8 are scheduled for Los Angeles / Orange County CA alone.
When I went to the Los Angeles car show earlier this month, I had VIP tickets, and was allowed into a Q&A sessions with several of the Luxury Brands, Genesis was one of them.
When I went to the Los Angeles car show earlier this month, I had VIP tickets, and was allowed into a Q&A sessions with several of the Luxury Brands, Genesis was one of them.
12-21-17, 05:11 PM
#552
Lexus Champion
actually the Genesis brick and mortar dealerships will be opening quarter 4 of 2018, 18 of them opening simultaneously across the US in the highest Hyundai selling markets, 8 are scheduled for Los Angeles / Orange County CA alone.
When I went to the Los Angeles car show earlier this month, I had VIP tickets, and was allowed into a Q&A sessions with several of the Luxury Brands, Genesis was one of them.
When I went to the Los Angeles car show earlier this month, I had VIP tickets, and was allowed into a Q&A sessions with several of the Luxury Brands, Genesis was one of them.
12-21-17, 05:15 PM
#553
Lexus Fanatic
Under Hyundai corporate policy, not all of the (current) Genesis franchises can handle the G90, either. Some are restricted to the G80 and (presumably) the upcoming G70.
12-21-17, 05:35 PM
#554
Lexus Fanatic
Then what would you two suggest...an all new SUV from scratch? Right now, they probably don't have the money for that, especially with the G70 coming out, which drew off some development funds. They can't even afford stand-alone dealerships right now....though we would probably all agree that they are doing some nice sedans.
Its not that they "can't afford standalone dealerships", those too are in development.
Disagree. Lexus makes money and serves up middle America well because of their FWD ES and RX, the LS, GS and GX and LX are the catalyst to help make people want to look at Lexus. Most people can't afford anything more than the ES or RX but they feel good about them because the Lexus brand has something at the top end to aspire to.
Remember, Genesis can make a RWD G80 at the same price as Lexus sells a FWD ES. Having driven both, the G80 is a way better car.
12-21-17, 05:56 PM
#555
Lexus Champion
my VIP tickets were from a manufacturer, the owner of the last company I worked for is a 30% owner Utilimaster-Sparton Motors, he has some type of relationship with a BMW higher up, I guess they are like a press pass, I get to go in before the public and participate in Q/A sessions and discussion panels. Ed sends them to me every year because he knows I am a car guy and worked as a grunt in the industry (pretty sure that is one of the reasons he hired me).