Originally Posted by mmarshall

Are they buying or leasing them? With many upmarket vehicles, leasing, of course, is quite popular, because it allows someone to get into a more expensive vehicle (albeit for only two or three years), at a substantially lower monthly payment, than an outright purchase.



That pretty much agrees with what I and a couple of other posters said before....though I don't see anything wrong with it if he does want one, and can afford it.



The GS-F is pretty much a niche vehicle.......even more so than the former IS-F (no offense, of course, since I see you have an IS-F....and congratulations) . I may be wrong (yes, it's happened before LOL)....but I don't think that the GS-F is going to have many buyers, period......partly due to relatively low production numbers.

Originally Posted by AJT123

Who is judging anyone?? Not me. You're the one who cut down a guy with a 10 year old GS. My LS is about to be 13 years old...what's your point? Still runs like a champ and I have no desire to get rid of it anytime soon.

I simply said "leasing is not for me." I couldn't get past the fact that it's not my car. I'm not judging anyone. You seem defensive, when nobody in this thread is trying to argue. All I said was (respectfully, I might add) that I disagree with your view that leased cars are destroyed, ragged out, etc.

We don't need to go into my financials.....I just like putting my superflous $ into financial security rather than paying a big payment for a car I don't own. That's not meant to be judgemental nor disrespectful. Some people may think it's crazy to have a 13 year old LS; that's their right. I like paid for cars and actually owning them. I'm married and settled down, happy, I don't need a flashy car right now. More power to those who do, because I used to feel that way.

Originally Posted by ssmoked

i unstand how you could be offended by my personal experience since you own(ed) both cars. But all The owners I see driving around with A4 are mostly college girls (vw fanatics with family money) and middle age+ women with rare few 50+ men.
Given the opportunity to buy/lease a new car, I cannot see any performance oriented friends settle for a fwd A4. I have quite a few buddies with s4/5 though. Again no offense, if they took their A4 to the drag strip or car meet, most likely they would be the joke of the day.

mmarshall, I all see is 50-60 yr olds driving GS around me, never seen 20-40. My definition and yours might be a little off, but I also mentioned mom/pop. I see more Asians and real estate agents driving the ES for the Lexus name
The lighter and more powerful IS350/ISF/GSF are more sports oriented sedans driven by 30-40 yr olds that are looking for 4 door imo

Originally Posted by dseag2

I'm not offended at all because I consider the source. Your buddies have good taste. I have owned three S5's. My '15 S5 was traded in for my '17 A4. Perhaps you should drive one before making generalizations. Also, there is an RC-F owner who has recently added a '17 A4 to his stable. He would probably have a different opinion as well. I don't think he bought it for his "college girl". See post #42.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-driver-3.html

Originally Posted by dseag2

I'm not offended at all because I consider the source. Your buddies have good taste. I have owned three S5's. My '15 S5 was traded in for my '17 A4. Perhaps you should drive one before making generalizations. Also, there is an RC-F owner who has recently added a '17 A4 to his stable. He would probably have a different opinion as well. I don't think he bought it for his "college girl". See post #42.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-driver-3.html

Originally Posted by AJT123

Who is judging anyone?? Not me. You're the one who cut down a guy with a 10 year old GS. My LS is about to be 13 years old...what's your point? Still runs like a champ and I have no desire to get rid of it anytime soon.

I simply said "leasing is not for me." I couldn't get past the fact that it's not my car. I'm not judging anyone. You seem defensive, when nobody in this thread is trying to argue. All I said was (respectfully, I might add) that I disagree with your view that leased cars are destroyed, ragged out, etc.

We don't need to go into my financials.....I just like putting my superflous $ into financial security rather than paying a big payment for a car I don't own. That's not meant to be judgemental nor disrespectful. Some people may think it's crazy to have a 13 year old LS; that's their right. I like paid for cars and actually owning them. I'm married and settled down, happy, I don't need a flashy car right now. More power to those who do, because I used to feel that way.

Originally Posted by pman6

I'm less concerned about the engine revving, and more concerned about why i'm not rich enough to buy a 918 like this rich foo. He seems to wipe his *** with money.

Originally Posted by ssmoked

you ***-u-me a lot. How was I defensive by explaining and supporting my view? Also don't assume I drive flashy cars to attract a mate, did it only for my pleasure.


Also when did I cut you down? I actually agreed with you that leasing only work for some and not others

Originally Posted by Htony

I don't care much about any car at my age as an old fart on the wrong side of 70, I am one of 'been there done that' type.

Originally Posted by Lexura1414

Are you kidding me? Corrado did not trade in his RC-F for an A4! LOL!!! I think he raplaced his CT with it. I traded in a 2015 S5 for my RC-F and am so glad I did. The S5 bored me as I came from an IS-F. I can relate to SSmoked as I regretted the downgrade in performance. I am in my mid forties and am still not ready trade down in performance..

Originally Posted by dseag2

No, I am in no way kidding. I didn't say he traded it. I said he added it to his stable.

Sorry the S5 bored you. You certainly congratulated new S5 owners in this forum. If you are in your mid-Forties, i guess you are just a few years away from driving an A4. ;-) What a downgrade! :-)