2018 Kia Stinger GT Unveiled: Wow!
#151
Lexus Champion
I had always thought that 4 exhaust tips meant there was something going on with the power train. Yesterday, I was behind a Range Rover, and it had 4 exhaust tips. This told me it wasn't the regular Range Rover.
Again, nobody has really ever answered and I don't remember, but I've always been curious who created the fake dual exhaust phenom. Honda and Toyota certainly had them dating back to the 90's, but I don't know if they started the trend. It's curious that many cos., say Subaru, followed the trend, and then backed off. I once saw an newer Outback wagon, where one of the two mufflers was totally rusted. My hunch was the rusted side sustained an accident and a cheap replacement part was used by a body shop....unless there is something under the hood to back up those tips, I would say remove them...
Again, nobody has really ever answered and I don't remember, but I've always been curious who created the fake dual exhaust phenom. Honda and Toyota certainly had them dating back to the 90's, but I don't know if they started the trend. It's curious that many cos., say Subaru, followed the trend, and then backed off. I once saw an newer Outback wagon, where one of the two mufflers was totally rusted. My hunch was the rusted side sustained an accident and a cheap replacement part was used by a body shop....unless there is something under the hood to back up those tips, I would say remove them...
With the Stinger's uncluttered back end, I find the four tip exhaust a little too busy. They should have gone the BMW 750 route with a clean rectangular single tip on each side.
#152
Lexus Champion
I am not certain when the fake or dual exhaust look started, but I do know that domestic manufacturers went to single muffler dual outlet exhaust on cars like the Camaro or Trans Am a long time ago back in the day. But that was an era of emissions too, and carburated cars. As technology has gotten better, you almost don't need dual exhaust as the deciding factor unless it's a very high end performance car or muscle car.
With the Stinger's uncluttered back end, I find the four tip exhaust a little too busy. They should have gone the BMW 750 route with a clean rectangular single tip on each side.
With the Stinger's uncluttered back end, I find the four tip exhaust a little too busy. They should have gone the BMW 750 route with a clean rectangular single tip on each side.
#155
Lexus Fanatic
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real dual exhausts have some value on a v6/v8 by allowing freer breathing for each bank of cylinders, but a quad exhaust is pointless (except for posing ) unless the engine is fire breathing monster.
#156
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
coulple of MT reviews...
first drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/
track drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...-drive-review/
first drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/
track drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...-drive-review/
#157
Lexus Fanatic
Thanks. I'm also waiting to see what Alex Dykes (Alex on Autos) thinks of it when he gets a chance to drive one. The dash, BTW, IMO, looks almost eeringly like that of the last Audi A3 I sampled. I understand that at least some of the current Kia stylists, in fact, came over from Audi.
#158
Compared To The Competition ...
coulple of MT reviews...
first drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/
track drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...-drive-review/
first drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/
track drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...-drive-review/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...-drive-review/
#159
Why would anyone buy this over say ... Infiniti's Q50 Red Sport 400?
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...-drive-review/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...-drive-review/
#160
i totally understand this sentiment, as i thought the same thing myself. then i watched a YouTube video of the kia being driven on a track, and noticed it had a heads up display (which the q50 lacks), as well as the ability to display digital speedometer in the information panel, which got me thinking what other features it may have that you cannot get on the q50. cooled seats? folding mirrors? window sunshades? LSD? you also have to think about features it may come with at a price either the same or less than a base (no options) RS400. blind spot monitoring? fwd collision? rear parking sensors? etc.?
right now pricing, mpg, and instrumented testing/dynamics of the kia are speculation and remain to be seen. but the kia could have the potential to present a value proposition to vehicles such as the RS400. we will have to wait (and wait and wait) & see.
right now pricing, mpg, and instrumented testing/dynamics of the kia are speculation and remain to be seen. but the kia could have the potential to present a value proposition to vehicles such as the RS400. we will have to wait (and wait and wait) & see.
#161
i totally understand this sentiment, as i thought the same thing myself. then i watched a YouTube video of the kia being driven on a track, and noticed it had a heads up display (which the q50 lacks), as well as the ability to display digital speedometer in the information panel, which got me thinking what other features it may have that you cannot get on the q50. cooled seats? folding mirrors? window sunshades? LSD? you also have to think about features it may come with at a price either the same or less than a base (no options) RS400. blind spot monitoring? fwd collision? rear parking sensors? etc.?
right now pricing, mpg, and instrumented testing/dynamics of the kia are speculation and remain to be seen. but the kia could have the potential to present a value proposition to vehicles such as the RS400. we will have to wait (and wait and wait) & see.
right now pricing, mpg, and instrumented testing/dynamics of the kia are speculation and remain to be seen. but the kia could have the potential to present a value proposition to vehicles such as the RS400. we will have to wait (and wait and wait) & see.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...t-test-review/
It's like the Genesis coupe vs. Infiniti G37 all over again. The original Genesis coupe was meant to compete with the Infiniti G37 but it came up short against the G37. By the way, the Q50 does have blind spot monitoring, fwd collision and rear parking sensors. Does the Stinger have: Backup Collision Intervention, Lane Departure Prevention, Blind Spot Intervention, Moving Object Detection, Auto leveling Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) or Around View Monitor? You get what you paid for.
#162
Lexus Fanatic
Why would anyone buy this over say ... Infiniti's Q50 Red Sport 400?
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...-drive-review/
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...-drive-review/
#163
The Stinger will be more successful (assuming you're measuring success solely by sales numbers) because it'll be available at a much lower price point, with the 2.0T, RWD and AWD configurations, as well as the 3.3 GT model, again with both RWD and AWD configurations.
#164
Motor Trend's latest video. Stinger GT, it's not meant to be an all-out track monster, but it is composed, capable and confident, while still being comfortable and luxurious.
#165
Motor Trend's latest video. Stinger GT, it's not meant to be an all-out track monster, but it is composed, capable and confident, while still being comfortable and luxurious.
https://youtu.be/tSWQTkbTYIQ
https://youtu.be/tSWQTkbTYIQ