2018 Kia Stinger GT Unveiled: Wow!
06-28-17, 10:05 PM
#121
^ The Taurus SHO is a boat compared to this car. Its also really cramped inside, like cramped for a midsize car, its comically bad how little room you get for the size of the car. Plus its very outdated, I think its been on the market for 6-7 years ago and uses the platform/chassis from an old Volvo, back when Ford owned Volvo.
Better comparison would be the new Ford Fusion Sport. If we are talking cars with a proper chassis, I'd say this goes head to head against the Lexus IS/GS lines, Infiniti Q50, BMW 3 series, Audi A4, and Benz C-class, Cadillac ATS. I see it being priced more line with the lower trim Lexus IS, Q50, Audi A3(although that is smaller), Benz CLA(yuck!!). Stuff like the C-class, BMW 3 series, Audi A4 are going to be more money, maybe A LOT more money depending on equipment/options, unless you get something like the poverty spec BMW 320i with vinyl seats, crank windows, etc.
Better comparison would be the new Ford Fusion Sport. If we are talking cars with a proper chassis, I'd say this goes head to head against the Lexus IS/GS lines, Infiniti Q50, BMW 3 series, Audi A4, and Benz C-class, Cadillac ATS. I see it being priced more line with the lower trim Lexus IS, Q50, Audi A3(although that is smaller), Benz CLA(yuck!!). Stuff like the C-class, BMW 3 series, Audi A4 are going to be more money, maybe A LOT more money depending on equipment/options, unless you get something like the poverty spec BMW 320i with vinyl seats, crank windows, etc.
06-29-17, 06:51 AM
#123
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06-29-17, 08:58 AM
#124
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06-29-17, 10:12 AM
#126
I had a nice discussion with the Hyundai sales manager when I went in to check out the Genesis G80 Sport. He confirmed that the Stinger is smaller and lighter than the G80 even though the Stinger GT uses the same engine as the G80 Sport. Genesis will be getting their smaller car (G70) a bit later than the Stinger's release, but he says they will have a sport model with Stinger performance in a sedan body. Apparently the Stinger and G70 share a platform and drive train but the bodies are dramatically different. He also has been told that Genesis will get a coupe on this platform, but didn't know when. He expects the 4 cyl. G70 pricing to start in the low $30k range and the V-6 to reach $45K+. They will overlap a fancy Sonata at the bottom end and a base G80 at the top. What he really wants is a Genesis specific crossover.
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06-29-17, 12:42 PM
#127
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06-29-17, 01:40 PM
#128
And a lot cheaper, a base model, 4 cylinder Guila is 37K, no options. You want a six cylinder?? You have to step up to the red hot crazy Gulia Quadrifidgetspinneriligio(however the hell you spell it), which is a twin turbo six, 505hp, very stiff suspension, and $72,000. Alfa really needs a mid-range model here, its like BMW only selling the 325i and the M3.
And the reliability part is spot on as well, its a shame the Italian arm of FCA can't pull their heads out of their own asses on quality control. Some of the major auto-rags have had problems with their test Guilas, from squeaks, rattles, check engine lights, to one of them even konking out completely during the test needing a tow.
And the reliability part is spot on as well, its a shame the Italian arm of FCA can't pull their heads out of their own asses on quality control. Some of the major auto-rags have had problems with their test Guilas, from squeaks, rattles, check engine lights, to one of them even konking out completely during the test needing a tow.
07-01-17, 02:10 PM
#129
how is a car that is not even for sale and has no real world performance, efficiency or reliability data beating many luxury makes? only on the internet....
07-02-17, 09:05 AM
#130
Regardless of how stunning this car is, what will determine if this car sells are weight and pricing. I read on another forum that the GT AWD trim will hit close to 4,000 pounds (3,968 pounds to be exact) and if it is priced close to $50,000 then it will have a tough time selling. The premium compact sport sedan segment is one tough segment to crack given the usual dominant players (e.g. 3 series, A4, C class) and fierce competition between the less dominant players (e.g. Q50, IS, TLX, ATS). Just for comparison, an Infiniti Q50 AWD Red Sport 400 weighs 4,005 pounds, costs $50,700 and has 400 hp. And that's before the Infiniti badge.
07-03-17, 10:14 PM
#131
07-15-17, 04:30 PM
#132
I drove a base Stinger recently, very impressed overall. Like the looks, the front end looks lower than in pictures. Drives great, excellent comfort & handling, chassis feels very stiff. Interior looks & feels nicer & sportier than other Kia's. Looking forward to driving a GT!
07-17-17, 07:24 PM
#134
Lexus Fanatic
I drove a base Stinger recently, very impressed overall.
Drove a Stinger GT awd today! Very impressed with the suspension & chassis, especially in sport mode, for an everyday car it is perfect as delivered. Also like the interior design & the seats fit me very nicely.
Where did you get a chance to drive them?
It looks like they haven't even been released yet in most areas.