2018 Camry revealed
09-10-17, 06:55 PM
#466
Lexus Test Driver
The push button start is pretty much standard in most segments today and expected by most buyers. Doesn't have anything to do with enthusiasts. Agreed, all Camry's should have it.
09-10-17, 07:16 PM
#467
Lexus Champion
I checked both Toyota.ca (Canada) and Toyota.com (USA) and the LE trim is available with the Smart Key System (push-button start) in an option package. I suspect that the Camry LE with the option package will be the de facto LE model, and the LE with no option package will be advertised as a loss leader to pull customers into the showroom.
09-10-17, 07:27 PM
#468
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C&D did a real world fuel economy test on the 2018 Camry SE 4 cyl. It returned 45 MPG on highway ! I will wait to see others have to say but the new 4 cyl engine seems to be super efficient.
Just for comparison Civic sedan with its 1.5T / CVT got 41 mpg in the same test.
Source:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-driver-page-3
Just for comparison Civic sedan with its 1.5T / CVT got 41 mpg in the same test.
Source:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-driver-page-3
Last edited by sorptd; 09-10-17 at 07:38 PM.
09-10-17, 07:35 PM
#469
Lexus Fanatic
. Only thing I can think of ia for keeping the costs down for fleet and taxi buyers.
09-10-17, 08:52 PM
#470
Lexus Fanatic
I think push button start is stupid give me an old fashion tried and true lock and key.
09-11-17, 12:53 AM
#471
Lexus Fanatic
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There's always one, lol
09-11-17, 06:49 AM
#474
Lexus Fanatic
I have had a Lexus that had push button start and I currently have keys. Its not really a deal breaker for me, I like the key and fob. However, I do see how it is more convenient when entering the vehicle, however there is not much extra convenience when exciting. With that said, the issue that I have is that Toyota has a new 2018 model out, it should either have keys across the board or push button start....with that said again (LOL) if Toyota is going to increase the price across the board, then no keys. If they are going to no have push button start, then better give me a lower price.
A push button start is sort of like Apple's touch ID. No point not having it standard at this point.
A push button start is sort of like Apple's touch ID. No point not having it standard at this point.
09-11-17, 08:17 AM
#475
Not sure what all the fuss about push button start is about. My 2016 F150 with MSRP of CAD 57K does not have it. The best selling vehicle in NA, F150 pickup truck, has it as an option, so I don't see why not with the best selling sedan.
09-11-17, 10:01 AM
#476
Lexus Fanatic
09-11-17, 11:20 AM
#477
Lexus Fanatic
Agreed, it should be standard on everything but economy cars at this point. It's like having a car in 2000 that didn't have remote entry.
09-11-17, 01:44 PM
#478
Lexus Fanatic
My Lacrosse has the push-button ignition......first car I've ever owned with it. It's a really nice convenience.
You can keep the electronic key fob in your pocket, where it won't get lost/misplaced or where you won't forget it, and as long as it is within a few feet of the ignition, door locks, trunk-release, etc.....all you have to do is push buttons and Presto.....the Genie does your wish. 
If you ever DO need an emergency key to get in, Ford and GM both have a similar system where you push a chrome button on the fob, and the emergency key pulls out, and you unsnap a partial-cover on the outside door-handle to reach a keyhole underneath.
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-11-17 at 01:48 PM.
09-11-17, 03:00 PM
#479
My Lacrosse has the push-button ignition......first car I've ever owned with it. It's a really nice convenience. You can keep the electronic key fob in your pocket, where it won't get lost/misplaced or where you won't forget it, and as long as it is within a few feet of the ignition, door locks, trunk-release, etc.....all you have to do is push buttons and Presto.....the Genie does your wish.
If you ever DO need an emergency key to get in, Ford and GM both have a similar system where you push a chrome button on the fob, and the emergency key pulls out, and you unsnap a partial-cover on the outside door-handle to reach a keyhole underneath.
You can keep the electronic key fob in your pocket, where it won't get lost/misplaced or where you won't forget it, and as long as it is within a few feet of the ignition, door locks, trunk-release, etc.....all you have to do is push buttons and Presto.....the Genie does your wish. If you ever DO need an emergency key to get in, Ford and GM both have a similar system where you push a chrome button on the fob, and the emergency key pulls out, and you unsnap a partial-cover on the outside door-handle to reach a keyhole underneath.
If you have your key fob on you, you simply have to pull open the door handle like normal. There are sensors that read your key, and your hand on the handle, and unlock the door you are trying to open. The same for the trunk. Simply place you hand on the trunk release and it unlocks it and allows you to press the handle to open the trunk.
If you are going to have keyless entry, it's more convenient to have keyless start, otherwise you are taking your key out anyway.
Last edited by ragingf80; 09-11-17 at 03:08 PM.
09-11-17, 06:05 PM
#480
Lexus Fanatic
My Lacrosse has the push-button ignition......first car I've ever owned with it. It's a really nice convenience. You can keep the electronic key fob in your pocket, where it won't get lost/misplaced or where you won't forget it, and as long as it is within a few feet of the ignition, door locks, trunk-release, etc.....all you have to do is push buttons and Presto.....the Genie does your wish.
You can keep the electronic key fob in your pocket, where it won't get lost/misplaced or where you won't forget it, and as long as it is within a few feet of the ignition, door locks, trunk-release, etc.....all you have to do is push buttons and Presto.....the Genie does your wish. Not sure about Lexus, but both my BMW's keyless system works this way:
If you have your key fob on you, you simply have to pull open the door handle like normal. There are sensors that read your key, and your hand on the handle, and unlock the door you are trying to open. The same for the trunk. Simply place you hand on the trunk release and it unlocks it and allows you to press the handle to open the trunk.
If you have your key fob on you, you simply have to pull open the door handle like normal. There are sensors that read your key, and your hand on the handle, and unlock the door you are trying to open. The same for the trunk. Simply place you hand on the trunk release and it unlocks it and allows you to press the handle to open the trunk.
I have mine set to unlock all the doors with the driver door.