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Old 02-08-17, 05:28 AM
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It's an example of the hypocrisy about their new "premium drive, cars you love blah blah" mantra that they have all these downmarket transverse vehicles. Dynamic SUVs are in and doing great, you would think the new dynamic Lexus would get on board with that a build a proper sport luxury utility.
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
It's an example of the hypocrisy about their new "premium drive, cars you love blah blah" mantra that they have all these downmarket transverse vehicles. Dynamic SUVs are in and doing great, you would think the new dynamic Lexus would get on board with that a build a proper sport luxury utility.
Exactly. There is nothing premium about fwd transverse chassis SUVs - they are basically minivans in disguise. I guess Lexus is happy about selling in large numbers to soccer moms and pensioners who want an SUV with a badge for less 20% less than real premium brands, but they are totally abandoning enthusiast market and down marketing the entire brand. I understand back in the 90ies at the beginning of SUV craze they had to pull a quick one with RX and LX, but since then they had plenty of chance to move RX to proper RWD chassis - and instead RX remains FWD, and they added corolla chassis based NX.
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And the sad thing is...they have great platforms. The GS/IS platform is a great platform and would make a great SUV, and the new LS/LC platform would make a great 3 row SUV Or large personal luxury utility LX replacement like a Range Rover.

IMHO if Lexus ever wants to truly have parity they need to commit to premium platforms.
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It seems Lexus is always late to the game or slow to adapt to market changes. Watch the sedan market come roaring back and they are caught flat footed again with SUVs flooding the dealer lots.
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It seems Lexus is always late to the game or slow to adapt to market changes. Watch the sedan market come roaring back and they are caught flat footed again with SUVs flooding the dealer lots.
I am not so sure Lexus is late to the game. Lexus sold 12000 SUVS last month for North America. Lexus was down for sedan sales but they line up of cars is pretty old with some models dating back to 2007. Lexus is a good position for sedan sales if the market changes.
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Originally Posted by Och
I understand back in the 90ies at the beginning of SUV craze they had to pull a quick one with RX and LX, but since then they had plenty of chance to move RX to proper RWD chassis - and instead RX remains FWD, and they added corolla chassis based NX.
You actually don't understand. Lexus sold almost 7000 RX units in January why would they want to change the formula that has worked? Explain the rationale behind changing the best selling luxury cross over SUV?

If you were to argue that they could possible have a separate model with a RWD design I would acknowledge that, but they already have two RWD based SUVs in the GX and LX.
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You actually don't understand. Lexus sold almost 7000 RX units in January why would they want to change the formula that has worked? Explain the rationale behind changing the best selling luxury cross over SUV?

If you were to argue that they could possible have a separate model with a RWD design I would acknowledge that, but they already have two RWD based SUVs in the GX and LX.
Yeah, and Kia probably sold 70,000 of whatever crapbucket SUVs they make. Lexus is supposed to be a premium brand selling premium vehicles - they have Toyota to sell vast quantities of downmarket junkers.
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Thats an example of the hypocrisy. They're trying to tell us that they don't care about sales figures or being #1, that what they dare about is making wonderful to drive emotional cars...yet they still churn out transverse engine Toyota derived CUVs to hit sales volume numbers.

They're talking the talk but not walking the walk.

Again, the shocker is Hyundai, no FWD based Genesis crossovers or vehicles planned.
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Yeah, and Kia probably sold 70,000 of whatever crapbucket SUVs they make. Lexus is supposed to be a premium brand selling premium vehicles - they have Toyota to sell vast quantities of downmarket junkers.
You still did not answer my question. Why would Lexus want to change something for their best selling SUV?
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A mid sized SUV based on the IS/GS platform could be pretty awesome and I'd most likely sign up. Until then I'll just enjoy driving my Toyota "downmarket junkers" LOL...

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A mid sized SUV based on the IS/GS platform could be pretty awesome and I'd most likely sign up. Until then I'll just enjoy driving my Toyota "downmarket junkers" LOL...
Why not just get a BMW or MB?
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Why not just get a BMW or MB?
I do not like the offerings by Mercedes but would definitely consider an X5.
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Why not get a BMW or MB if you want a real premium SUV? That's the issue isn't it? Those are real premium carmakers, you could argue Lexus really isn't because they don't offer exclusively premium platform vehicles.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I do not like the offerings by Mercedes but would definitely consider an X5.
What don't you like about the offering?
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
What don't you like about the offering?
I don't want to get off track, but it's Mercedes' styling that I don't care for. Nothing otherwise against them. I think the X5 is a much better looking vehicle.
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