Why isn't Lexus adding IS/GS/LS based CUVs?
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Why isn't Lexus adding IS/GS/LS based CUVs?
Lexus really needs to renew their CUV line ups.
Instead of having them all Toyota based, they should be built under the same RWD platform of IS/GS/LS.
Haven't drove NX yet but introducing it with RAV4 base is quite ridiculous, I found.
RX's overly cushy ride with too much body roll makes me feel it is a jacked up ES whose ride quality resembles Toyota Avalon, America's #1 granny car.
At least ES comes at a cheap price but RX does not...
I think Lexus should build CUVs more like Lexus and bit sporty, not overly comfort oriented vehicles that resembles Toyota.
Instead of having them all Toyota based, they should be built under the same RWD platform of IS/GS/LS.
Haven't drove NX yet but introducing it with RAV4 base is quite ridiculous, I found.
RX's overly cushy ride with too much body roll makes me feel it is a jacked up ES whose ride quality resembles Toyota Avalon, America's #1 granny car.
At least ES comes at a cheap price but RX does not...
I think Lexus should build CUVs more like Lexus and bit sporty, not overly comfort oriented vehicles that resembles Toyota.
#3
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It's because they're cheap. The transverse Toyota based CUVs sell well and they're high profit because of their shared platform, so they keep pumping them out. It's contrary to their new "cars that are enjoyable and that people love to drive" mantra.
IMHO as CUVs become a bigger and. Unger part it will push Lexus further down the rankings of elite luxury carmakers. Lexus is a lot more like Acura than Mercedes or BMW or Audi when it comes to utilities.
IMHO as CUVs become a bigger and. Unger part it will push Lexus further down the rankings of elite luxury carmakers. Lexus is a lot more like Acura than Mercedes or BMW or Audi when it comes to utilities.
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Lexus really needs to renew their CUV line ups.
Instead of having them all Toyota based, they should be built under the same RWD platform of IS/GS/LS.
Haven't drove NX yet but introducing it with RAV4 base is quite ridiculous, I found.
RX's overly cushy ride with too much body roll makes me feel it is a jacked up ES whose ride quality resembles Toyota Avalon, America's #1 granny car.
At least ES comes at a cheap price but RX does not...
I think Lexus should build CUVs more like Lexus and bit sporty, not overly comfort oriented vehicles that resembles Toyota.
Instead of having them all Toyota based, they should be built under the same RWD platform of IS/GS/LS.
Haven't drove NX yet but introducing it with RAV4 base is quite ridiculous, I found.
RX's overly cushy ride with too much body roll makes me feel it is a jacked up ES whose ride quality resembles Toyota Avalon, America's #1 granny car.
At least ES comes at a cheap price but RX does not...
I think Lexus should build CUVs more like Lexus and bit sporty, not overly comfort oriented vehicles that resembles Toyota.
#5
It's because they're cheap. The transverse Toyota based CUVs sell well and they're high profit because of their shared platform, so they keep pumping them out. It's contrary to their new "cars that are enjoyable and that people love to drive" mantra.
IMHO as CUVs become a bigger and. Unger part it will push Lexus further down the rankings of elite luxury carmakers. Lexus is a lot more like Acura than Mercedes or BMW or Audi when it comes to utilities.
IMHO as CUVs become a bigger and. Unger part it will push Lexus further down the rankings of elite luxury carmakers. Lexus is a lot more like Acura than Mercedes or BMW or Audi when it comes to utilities.
#6
It's because they're cheap. The transverse Toyota based CUVs sell well and they're high profit because of their shared platform, so they keep pumping them out. It's contrary to their new "cars that are enjoyable and that people love to drive" mantra.
IMHO as CUVs become a bigger and. Unger part it will push Lexus further down the rankings of elite luxury carmakers. Lexus is a lot more like Acura than Mercedes or BMW or Audi when it comes to utilities.
IMHO as CUVs become a bigger and. Unger part it will push Lexus further down the rankings of elite luxury carmakers. Lexus is a lot more like Acura than Mercedes or BMW or Audi when it comes to utilities.
#7
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[QUOTE=Hoovey2411;9764384. You could make the case that the GX and LX are special because they are permanent 4x4's with transfer cases and locking diffs, something nothing but a G-Wagen Benz could offer.[/QUOTE]
And they offer a V8, towing package, 7 rows, air suspension etc etc.
And they offer a V8, towing package, 7 rows, air suspension etc etc.
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#8
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The Audi's are special because of optional Quattro. Otherwise they are no different than Lexus. GLA, X1 from Benz and BMW are also FWD based. You could make the case that the GX and LX are special because they are permanent 4x4's with transfer cases and locking diffs, something nothing but a G-Wagen Benz could offer.
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But they don't sell those FWD Audis here so when discussing the US market its a moot point. The GX and LX are fine vehicles in their own right, but they aren't the sort of vehicles we're talking about. I don't have an issue with them also offering those vehicles, but bottom line something like an X5, X3, Q5, Q7, GLE, GLS, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, LR Discovery, Jaguar F Pace....Lexus offers nothing of that caliber. With those vehicles capturing more and more of the market, thats going to be an issue for Lexus. Customers like me, I have moved on from transverse Toyota platform Lexus cars. I have no interest in an RX or an ES or a LWB 3 row RX, I had that and my income and ability and desire to drive a real premium car has grown out of that. I am considering moving to an SUV when I am done with my LS, as many sedan customers are. What Lexus can I buy? Nothing...don't want a truck like the GX or LX. I have no choice but to leave the brand.
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But they don't sell those FWD Audis here so when discussing the US market its a moot point. The GX and LX are fine vehicles in their own right, but they aren't the sort of vehicles we're talking about. I don't have an issue with them also offering those vehicles, but bottom line something like an X5, X3, Q5, Q7, GLE, GLS, Range Rover, Range Rover Sport, LR Discovery, Jaguar F Pace....Lexus offers nothing of that caliber. With those vehicles capturing more and more of the market, thats going to be an issue for Lexus. Customers like me, I have moved on from transverse Toyota platform Lexus cars. I have no interest in an RX or an ES or a LWB 3 row RX, I had that and my income and ability and desire to drive a real premium car has grown out of that. I am considering moving to an SUV when I am done with my LS, as many sedan customers are. What Lexus can I buy? Nothing...don't want a truck like the GX or LX. I have no choice but to leave the brand.
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Lexus really needs to renew their CUV line ups.
Instead of having them all Toyota based, they should be built under the same RWD platform of IS/GS/LS.
Haven't drove NX yet but introducing it with RAV4 base is quite ridiculous, I found.
RX's overly cushy ride with too much body roll makes me feel it is a jacked up ES whose ride quality resembles Toyota Avalon, America's #1 granny car.
At least ES comes at a cheap price but RX does not...
I think Lexus should build CUVs more like Lexus and bit sporty, not overly comfort oriented vehicles that resembles Toyota.
Instead of having them all Toyota based, they should be built under the same RWD platform of IS/GS/LS.
Haven't drove NX yet but introducing it with RAV4 base is quite ridiculous, I found.
RX's overly cushy ride with too much body roll makes me feel it is a jacked up ES whose ride quality resembles Toyota Avalon, America's #1 granny car.
At least ES comes at a cheap price but RX does not...
I think Lexus should build CUVs more like Lexus and bit sporty, not overly comfort oriented vehicles that resembles Toyota.
#13
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Originally Posted by jadu
I don't think Lexus wants a Honda Crosstour to happen if they use they use the IS/GS/LS platform I think a whole new RWD CUV/SUV platform would needed. I'm sure Lexus has something in the works
The RX Is based off the Camry.
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