Texas HB 276
#16
How is it a waste of all those things? Convicts in prison actually make the plates....and they sure aren't getting, wage-wise, what factory workers get. If nothing else, it gives them experience actually doing something constructive with their time, helping them learn discipline on a steady (even if somewhat menial) job, and preparing them for an eventual return to society.
front license plates cannot be justified at all because police cars almost always identify cars using the rear license plate.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 02-19-17 at 12:30 PM.
#17
: they could make plenty of other more useful things. in my county they have prisoner farms and they grow and raise just about everything eaten in the jail. now that's a good idea.
front license plates cannot be justified at all because police cars almost always identify cars using the rear license plate.
http://www.insurance.com/auto-insura...se-plates.html
#18
I've never had a front plate in TX in my 10 years of living here. It is my understanding that you must be violating some other traffic law to get cited for not having a front plate. I got cited once for not having a front plate, and that was because I was speeding. As long as you are not breaking any other traffic laws, an officer will not stop you for having no front license plate. Besides, I would rather pay the fine than have one.
#19
I've never had a front plate in TX in my 10 years of living here. It is my understanding that you must be violating some other traffic law to get cited for not having a front plate. I got cited once for not having a front plate, and that was because I was speeding. As long as you are not breaking any other traffic laws, an officer will not stop you for having no front license plate. Besides, I would rather pay the fine than have one.
#20
Well, then, who else would you want to make them? I personally don't see where there is anything wrong with it. Prisoners need to be given something to do (besides the regular menial prison jobs like laundry, sweeping floors, etc...) to prepare them for an eventual return to society.
While I can't speak for all of them, the majority of police departments seem to disagree.
http://www.insurance.com/auto-insura...se-plates.html
http://www.insurance.com/auto-insura...se-plates.html
nothing you can post or write will convince me that the eyesore of front plates if worth the hideous blemish and cost.
#21
The purpose of front license plates has everything to do with safety. They were required to help authorities easier identify stolen cars or cars being sought for infractions. When you only have one plate on a car, you have half the chance of seeing the plate. When you have two plates on a car, you have double the chance of seeing the plate. Not every police officer is behind a car when trying to gain info. Not every camera is aimed at the rear of a car.
Now, all the same applies to you and I in every day living, but on a smaller scale. Say someone just dinged your door in a parking lot. You are a ways away, and aren't always going to be behind that car to catch the plate. A front plate comes in handy for all those situations, and in other similar "quick get-away" situations. It is for safety and for easier identifying. I rather have all these things working for me, since I am one of the good guys who don't steal cars or ding others. I don't want to give any possible leeway to a bad guy who does the infractions. Same goes for the police, who are trying their best to see a plate and identify a suspect as quick as possible. If that was your car stolen, you'd want everything in the police's power to be able to easily spot it out on the road.
One last reason for a front plate. They also act as a buffer between you and another car trying to park in front of you. A slight tap against a plate and frame will not do any damage to your bumper. A slight tap against your bare bumper will leave a mark, scratch, or worse. That alone has saved me many times over the decades, with disrespectful people using the "tap" feature to park.
Yes, it looks better with a smooth, clean front. But for something that has to do with safety, it matters.
Now, all the same applies to you and I in every day living, but on a smaller scale. Say someone just dinged your door in a parking lot. You are a ways away, and aren't always going to be behind that car to catch the plate. A front plate comes in handy for all those situations, and in other similar "quick get-away" situations. It is for safety and for easier identifying. I rather have all these things working for me, since I am one of the good guys who don't steal cars or ding others. I don't want to give any possible leeway to a bad guy who does the infractions. Same goes for the police, who are trying their best to see a plate and identify a suspect as quick as possible. If that was your car stolen, you'd want everything in the police's power to be able to easily spot it out on the road.
One last reason for a front plate. They also act as a buffer between you and another car trying to park in front of you. A slight tap against a plate and frame will not do any damage to your bumper. A slight tap against your bare bumper will leave a mark, scratch, or worse. That alone has saved me many times over the decades, with disrespectful people using the "tap" feature to park.
Yes, it looks better with a smooth, clean front. But for something that has to do with safety, it matters.
#22
The purpose of front license plates has everything to do with safety. They were required to help authorities easier identify stolen cars or cars being sought for infractions. When you only have one plate on a car, you have half the chance of seeing the plate. When you have two plates on a car, you have double the chance of seeing the plate. Not every police officer is behind a car when trying to gain info. Not every camera is aimed at the rear of a car.
Now, all the same applies to you and I in every day living, but on a smaller scale. Say someone just dinged your door in a parking lot. You are a ways away, and aren't always going to be behind that car to catch the plate. A front plate comes in handy for all those situations, and in other similar "quick get-away" situations. It is for safety and for easier identifying. I rather have all these things working for me, since I am one of the good guys who don't steal cars or ding others. I don't want to give any possible leeway to a bad guy who does the infractions. Same goes for the police, who are trying their best to see a plate and identify a suspect as quick as possible. If that was your car stolen, you'd want everything in the police's power to be able to easily spot it out on the road.
One last reason for a front plate. They also act as a buffer between you and another car trying to park in front of you. A slight tap against a plate and frame will not do any damage to your bumper. A slight tap against your bare bumper will leave a mark, scratch, or worse. That alone has saved me many times over the decades, with disrespectful people using the "tap" feature to park.
Yes, it looks better with a smooth, clean front. But for something that has to do with safety, it matters.
Now, all the same applies to you and I in every day living, but on a smaller scale. Say someone just dinged your door in a parking lot. You are a ways away, and aren't always going to be behind that car to catch the plate. A front plate comes in handy for all those situations, and in other similar "quick get-away" situations. It is for safety and for easier identifying. I rather have all these things working for me, since I am one of the good guys who don't steal cars or ding others. I don't want to give any possible leeway to a bad guy who does the infractions. Same goes for the police, who are trying their best to see a plate and identify a suspect as quick as possible. If that was your car stolen, you'd want everything in the police's power to be able to easily spot it out on the road.
One last reason for a front plate. They also act as a buffer between you and another car trying to park in front of you. A slight tap against a plate and frame will not do any damage to your bumper. A slight tap against your bare bumper will leave a mark, scratch, or worse. That alone has saved me many times over the decades, with disrespectful people using the "tap" feature to park.
Yes, it looks better with a smooth, clean front. But for something that has to do with safety, it matters.
#24
because for nineteen states saving money was more important to them. I remember when Michigan went to the single plate system. It was all about how many millions the state was going to save. While the fraternal order of police lobbied hard not to.
Last edited by Coleroad; 02-20-17 at 01:37 PM.
#26
Well I hope they do repeal it because I went to REAL JAIL in farmers branch, Tx over a front plate! No warrants at all. They were just *** hats cause I wouldn't let them search. I was not even IN MY CAR!!!! I was in the driveway. **** front plates and the cops. I got it all thrown out but 2 days in jail ain't worth a smooth bumper. Had an immaculate 750li and they hated it.
#28
I sympathise, at least to an extent, with those who like a clean front-end look to their cars.....I don't particularly care for front-plate mounts myself (and, to top it off, some jerk stole my front tag and its nice clear-plastic cover about a year ago....I had to go to DMV and pay for a new set of plates to replace it and re-register my car for a local military pass because I had new plates.... PITA). But, like it or not, front-plate laws exist for a reason...and it's not just to collect revenue. Besides, when one signs for his or her drivers' license, that is considered a privilege, not a right......and, with that privilege, goes the responsibility of obeying all applicable Federal/state/local laws)
#29
^hahahahahaa You think people where there are no state inspections or emissions tests maintain their cars as well as places that do inspections???? I always make the joke that around here in TN only 5 or 6 counties make you do emissions testing, Davidson(which is Nashville), and the surrounding suburban counties. All the broke *** bubbas that drive 40 miles one way to work in Nashville(that don't live in the emissions testing counties) in their beat up trucks took the cat-converters off long ago when they failed. Or put a piece of black tape over that check engine light.
#30
That doesn't change anything that I said, though. If there are no (applicable) inspection or emission laws (or front-license-plate requirements) in a state or county, then the owners of cars registered in those jurisdictions are not bound to follow them. You obviously can't follow what doesn't exist.