(RUMOR Japanese Magazine has article that says) Lexus is canceling the GS line.
#91
Hard to believe the GS would be cancelled and replaced by ... what? A stripped down V6 LS? For 45-60K? VERY unlikely! The new LS was not designed as a replacement in that range.
Lexus would not leave a gigantic hole in their lineup at that price.
Lexus would not leave a gigantic hole in their lineup at that price.
#93
Lexus Test Driver
Most ppl said i was crazy to suggest this as the ES was their bread and butter.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 03-17-17 at 02:59 PM.
#94
Hmm, I wonder what this means. I had learned that the next IS entered development in 2015, under the programme code 400A is due for design approval in the second half of 2017. Scheduling for that model begins in July 2020, on TNGA-L. This I had not seen until now, which is quite shocking that I didn't come across this on my own earlier. 200B was for the LS and 950A was for the LC. The new ES is 240B, but the 5GS appears to be under 300B due for SOP in April 2019. Initially this car had been scheduled for late 2018, but I am wondering how recent this information is.
#95
I have not read the last several pages so pardon me if this has been stated .
i do believe the GS will go away. They recently stated they plan to build a wider variety of SUVs and less cars. So here is my fearless prediction. They will copy Acura by combining the IS and GS as Acura did combining the TSX and TL with the TSX. It will be 188 inches long. You heard it here first.
i do believe the GS will go away. They recently stated they plan to build a wider variety of SUVs and less cars. So here is my fearless prediction. They will copy Acura by combining the IS and GS as Acura did combining the TSX and TL with the TSX. It will be 188 inches long. You heard it here first.
#96
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I have not read the last several pages so pardon me if this has been stated .
i do believe the GS will go away. They recently stated they plan to build a wider variety of SUVs and less cars. So here is my fearless prediction. They will copy Acura by combining the IS and GS as Acura did combining the TSX and TL with the TSX. It will be 188 inches long. You heard it here first.
i do believe the GS will go away. They recently stated they plan to build a wider variety of SUVs and less cars. So here is my fearless prediction. They will copy Acura by combining the IS and GS as Acura did combining the TSX and TL with the TSX. It will be 188 inches long. You heard it here first.
IS is way too important for Lexus and they cannot afford to grow it in size substantially and make it a tweener like ES or CTS or even last gen TL. While this concept could work in US it would fail flat in Europe and Japan where there is a clear distinction between sizes in premium segment. And above all that they need a small sedan to play worldwide unlike Acura.
In my opinion if GS development has been halted like rumors suggests than it is only so it could be tweaked and repositioned according to Lexus future plans and positioning in the market. Just like SC really never went away neither will GS, it will resurface one way or the other.
#97
My uncle just said he's looking to replace his 5-series soon. I was going to recommend him the eventual redesigned GS but then this news came.
Japan has no other legit car in the midsize luxury category worth a look.
Japan has no other legit car in the midsize luxury category worth a look.
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#102
Hmm, I wonder what this means. I had learned that the next IS entered development in 2015, under the programme code 400A is due for design approval in the second half of 2017. Scheduling for that model begins in July 2020, on TNGA-L. This I had not seen until now, which is quite shocking that I didn't come across this on my own earlier. 200B was for the LS and 950A was for the LC. The new ES is 240B, but the 5GS appears to be under 300B due for SOP in April 2019. Initially this car had been scheduled for late 2018, but I am wondering how recent this information is.
I didn't think Lexus would be stupid enough to axe the 5GS.
#103
E Class and 5 series for the debut of the current GS was 1 Lexus per 3 E/5 series. In the previous gen, the GS was softer and plushier and it sold less.
The real issue IMO is to offer vehicles people want to drive at costs they can fathom.
If you want to move units, leave the ES where it is. Dont need to do spruce up much since at its price point its the best value in class.
If you want to move double the units in the RWD Sedan dep, offer something unique, something car buyers from Lexus and other brands have yet to experience.
Incorporate some performance hybrid tech deck the interior out like the new LS, and then offer a real GSF (I dont mean shove a V8 that is down on power) if and only if the non F models are a success. Offer tech people are craving for but without the assistance of Apple or Google if thats a hinderance. Maybe design a coupe or GT model.
All while being relatively reliable and affordable.
Done
The real issue IMO is to offer vehicles people want to drive at costs they can fathom.
If you want to move units, leave the ES where it is. Dont need to do spruce up much since at its price point its the best value in class.
If you want to move double the units in the RWD Sedan dep, offer something unique, something car buyers from Lexus and other brands have yet to experience.
Incorporate some performance hybrid tech deck the interior out like the new LS, and then offer a real GSF (I dont mean shove a V8 that is down on power) if and only if the non F models are a success. Offer tech people are craving for but without the assistance of Apple or Google if thats a hinderance. Maybe design a coupe or GT model.
All while being relatively reliable and affordable.
Done
The ES has established an image as being an affordable, cushy, luxury car and no matter how upmarket they move it, that will take years to turn around. If they go that route, Lexus would be better off establishing a brand new model, although that hasn't worked so well with Acura's TLX (formerly TL and TS-X).
Last edited by dseag2; 03-17-17 at 07:36 PM.
#105
Meh the Q70 is old, kinda ugly, has little brand recognition, and has signs of corner cutting all over the interior (e.g. cardboard sunroof cover, Nissan-grade plastics for the rear air vents, etc.). Half-assed car typical of Infiniti.