Have they (Acura) learned nothing?
#61
#62
Lexus Fanatic
I can't warm up to that beak, it looks like it belongs on the dopey comedy relief Transformer.
#63
i work at an acura dealer and the TLX (at least where i'm at) just isnt a big seller.... its looked exactly the same for 3 model years now and doesnt really have much to offer. Just earlier this year we still had 3 2015's that sales couldnt manage to.. sell. they had to turn them in to loaner cars lol
all the acuras will end up with that grille. the 2017 mdx was the first to have it, so the rest will undoubtedly follow. im not looking forward to an ILX redesign because I just know its going to end up looking like the new civics
all the acuras will end up with that grille. the 2017 mdx was the first to have it, so the rest will undoubtedly follow. im not looking forward to an ILX redesign because I just know its going to end up looking like the new civics
#65
Lexus Test Driver
I sat in the new TLX Aspec at the NY auto show - the interior quality and design is horrendous.
You need to be high on drugs to get TLX over a Q50 or Genesis G80.
You need to be high on drugs to get TLX over a Q50 or Genesis G80.
#66
Pole Position
#67
Lexus Fanatic
I wouldn't say "horrendous", but they aren't up to the standards of their competitors no.
#68
I always thought Acura interiors looked like the top trim line interior you'd find in an Accord, Pilot, etc but with more fake shiny wood or weird plastic that's supposed to look like metal.
#69
Lexus Test Driver
The TLX has vastly lower leases compared to the cars (Infiniti, Hyundai) listed above. It sells on value, name, and reputation- which are solid things for many people. And while I'm not a fan of the center stack, I wouldn't call it horrendous. It's just a bit dated and lacks some luxury.
Acura still has a long way to go with it's car line-up. Getting rid of the heavy shield was a good start. Combining the TL and TSX into one was not.
Acura still has a long way to go with it's car line-up. Getting rid of the heavy shield was a good start. Combining the TL and TSX into one was not.
#70
Lexus Champion
#71
Lexus Test Driver
#72
Moderator
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The new NSX doesn't look bad. I agree that the "beak" has long overstayed its welcome in the lineup but it otherwise looks good. Better than all the other Acuras... it just doesn't look nearly as good as the original NSX. It's performance specs and reviews I like, although I hope they release the non-hybrid ("NSX-R"?) variant which is mid-engine rear-drive only instead of AWD.
The rest of the Acura lineup... no comparison to the 1991-1995 Legend sedan and coupe, late 90's 3.5 TL, 90's Integra and the styling of the Vigor. And though it is a Honda... the last generation Prelude coupe also counts because it looks so good. Their only SUV's that I liked visually were rebadged Isuzus anyway so... nothing to say much about there.
Their styling was much better when it was much more conservative from an 80's and 90's perspective. They went from that era straight downward.
What I do like is that they took the great FWD active diff technology from the Prelude Type SH and grew it into a nice AWD system that has been applied to a few models, including (in heavily augmented form) the new NSX. But that's a drivetrain technology. The styling of their newer vehicles is a totally different matter.
Dropping all manual transmissions from their non-NSX performance Acuras... yeah, I get the industry trend and I do like properly made dual clutch gearboxes... but other than with a supercar like an NSX I don't care. I'll buy a manual car over a CVT or auto-only car.
The most annoying industry-wise trend right now is this over-arching mandate that ALL cars in any manufacturer's lineup must have nearly the same styling and not just a commonly shaped small plastic grill insert with an emblem but an entire front bumper that resembles every other car in the lineup to such a degree that you feel like the car's own personality can't be allowed to be its own thing without constantly harkening back to the brand itself.
The emblem and some subtle integrated design touches are reminders that it's a car is part of only one manufacturer's lineup. It doesn't need to be the whole damn front grill. Ford does this a lot and so does Acura and Lexus. Although I think Ford's approach blends better across their model range. I like the front end of the Focus and Fiesta lineups from the base models through the ST's and RS. Acura doesn't do it so well with their overdone current bumper designs which will look dated faster than those on other marques.
The rest of the Acura lineup... no comparison to the 1991-1995 Legend sedan and coupe, late 90's 3.5 TL, 90's Integra and the styling of the Vigor. And though it is a Honda... the last generation Prelude coupe also counts because it looks so good. Their only SUV's that I liked visually were rebadged Isuzus anyway so... nothing to say much about there.
Their styling was much better when it was much more conservative from an 80's and 90's perspective. They went from that era straight downward.
What I do like is that they took the great FWD active diff technology from the Prelude Type SH and grew it into a nice AWD system that has been applied to a few models, including (in heavily augmented form) the new NSX. But that's a drivetrain technology. The styling of their newer vehicles is a totally different matter.
Dropping all manual transmissions from their non-NSX performance Acuras... yeah, I get the industry trend and I do like properly made dual clutch gearboxes... but other than with a supercar like an NSX I don't care. I'll buy a manual car over a CVT or auto-only car.
The most annoying industry-wise trend right now is this over-arching mandate that ALL cars in any manufacturer's lineup must have nearly the same styling and not just a commonly shaped small plastic grill insert with an emblem but an entire front bumper that resembles every other car in the lineup to such a degree that you feel like the car's own personality can't be allowed to be its own thing without constantly harkening back to the brand itself.
The emblem and some subtle integrated design touches are reminders that it's a car is part of only one manufacturer's lineup. It doesn't need to be the whole damn front grill. Ford does this a lot and so does Acura and Lexus. Although I think Ford's approach blends better across their model range. I like the front end of the Focus and Fiesta lineups from the base models through the ST's and RS. Acura doesn't do it so well with their overdone current bumper designs which will look dated faster than those on other marques.
Last edited by KahnBB6; 04-20-17 at 06:30 PM.
#73
i work at an acura dealer and the TLX (at least where i'm at) just isnt a big seller.... its looked exactly the same for 3 model years now and doesnt really have much to offer. Just earlier this year we still had 3 2015's that sales couldnt manage to.. sell. they had to turn them in to loaner cars lol
all the acuras will end up with that grille. the 2017 mdx was the first to have it, so the rest will undoubtedly follow. im not looking forward to an ILX redesign because I just know its going to end up looking like the new civics
all the acuras will end up with that grille. the 2017 mdx was the first to have it, so the rest will undoubtedly follow. im not looking forward to an ILX redesign because I just know its going to end up looking like the new civics
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