Ordered my new car (2018 Buick Lacrosse)
#31
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Very nice Michael! That is solid and safe choice, which I believe will serve you well and not give any stress or headaches. Congrats and enjoy!
So now I'm curious how much they were willing to bargain on the car since it was special ordered and a ways off, arriving when the all-new model year begins...
So now I'm curious how much they were willing to bargain on the car since it was special ordered and a ways off, arriving when the all-new model year begins...
#32
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So now I'm curious how much they were willing to bargain on the car since it was special ordered and a ways off, arriving when the all-new model year begins...
I decided on a 2017 rather than a 2018 because Buick will introduce an all-new 9-speed transmission next year in the Lacrosse (presumably with the same E-shifter)......... a number of complex or all-new transmissions lately, from different manufacturers (mostly done to try and increase gas mileage) have proven troublesome. Consumer Reports has also cautioned potential buyers about that. Besides, I'm generally satisfied with the 8-speed transmission currently in use this year (more so than with the shifter itself)........the way I drive, I don't see the need for any more gears.
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#33
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VA's sales tax on a new vehicle is lower? I don't believe it is, what is it? In any event had you bought in MD you would have paid VA sales tax since you live in VA.
#34
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Congrats Mike!
OT - is there a new small Buick sedan in the works?
I saw a couple of camo'd cars that had taped up emblems...Sorry, I didn't get pics for some dumb reason.
OT - is there a new small Buick sedan in the works?
I saw a couple of camo'd cars that had taped up emblems...Sorry, I didn't get pics for some dumb reason.
#36
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http://www.mva.maryland.gov/vehicles...uy-vehicle.htm
- An excise tax will be charged on the basis of 6% of the vehicle’s book value or 6% of the purchase price on the notarized “Bill of Sale” for vehicles 7 years old or newer. For older vehicles, the tax is calculated on the purchase price. Maryland’s minimum excise tax charged is $38.40, based on a minimum value of $640.
https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/vehicles/#sut.asp
Effective July 1, 2016, unless exempted under Va. Code § 58.1-2402, Virginia levies a 4.15% Motor Vehicle Sales and Use (SUT) Tax based on the vehicle's gross sales price or $75, whichever is greater. An additional $64 fee applies to electric vehicles, excluding mopeds.Jul 1, 2016
In any event had you bought in MD you would have paid VA sales tax since you live in VA.
#37
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Thanks.
Not for the American market. The 2Gen Verano will be Chinese-market only.....for several years, the Excelle (Chinese Verano) was the best-selling car in that market. Chalk that one up to the brilliant marketers at Buick.....they decided to convert the Verano plant at Orion, MI to Encore production, (supposedly) to keep up with demand for that vehicle.
An all-new, Opel-based, Regal (which is slightly larger than the Verano) will debut this fall in the American market....but only in 5-door hatch and 5-door wagon body styles. Chalk another one up to those brilliant marketers...the Regal sedan will also be dropped this fall.
OT - is there a new small Buick sedan in the works?
An all-new, Opel-based, Regal (which is slightly larger than the Verano) will debut this fall in the American market....but only in 5-door hatch and 5-door wagon body styles. Chalk another one up to those brilliant marketers...the Regal sedan will also be dropped this fall.
#38
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Normally every 5-6 years.
Thanks. After decades of driving everything from econoboxes to sports coupes (Celica) to a winter-capable Outback to even a bright yellow Lexus IS300 semi-sports-sedan, this time, I decided I had waited long enough for a nice, fairly large, comfortable cruiser...I was going to get the most comfy car I've had since my old days at college.
great pick sir, at least this will be a predictable (and very comfortable) car ownership experience for you!
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Great.....just got a call from the dealership......too late for a 2017. The factory's not taking any more orders ( hard to believe on a slow-selling sedan). So, since the 2018 will be essentially the same car as the 2017 (color, options, etc...) except for the new transmission, slightly-revised axle-ratio, and maybe a very minor price increase, I authorized the changeover to a 2018. I don't like the idea of the all-new tranny, but that's what you have a warranty for.
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assume there's a price adjustment there going from '17 to '18? besides 9 speed, any other equipment std and package differences?
#41
^ That sucks they aren't taking orders on 2017's. I know in ye olden days of yearly model changes, the factory shut down for a month or more to "retool" during the summer. Is this still the case??? Because it could push your delivery date to WAY out there(like July or August).
I know dealers can also look around at other dealers stock, see if they have a LaCrosse in the color/trim you want, then have it shipped to your local dealer. I know this happened when my mom bought her 2012 Camry V6 SE. She was really picky about wanting the V6 SE in grey, dealer tried hard to sell her hard on a black V6 SE they had on the lot(they had like 20 4 cylinders and 1 V6 on the lot) Ended up shipping one(or maybe they drove it) from a dealer in Lousville to Nashville.
I know dealers can also look around at other dealers stock, see if they have a LaCrosse in the color/trim you want, then have it shipped to your local dealer. I know this happened when my mom bought her 2012 Camry V6 SE. She was really picky about wanting the V6 SE in grey, dealer tried hard to sell her hard on a black V6 SE they had on the lot(they had like 20 4 cylinders and 1 V6 on the lot) Ended up shipping one(or maybe they drove it) from a dealer in Lousville to Nashville.
#42
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This model-year change (?) may actually work out better than I thought. I may be a little overly-concerned about this new transmission for 2018. I did some research on it......apparently it's the same 9TXX unit jointly co-developed by GM and Ford, and used in some 2017 Chevy models this year, so it's not like next year's Lacrosse will be the transmission's initial Guinea-Pig test. What I've read seems to consider this as one of the world's most advanced transmissions today. (and my driving-style usually doesn't put a lot of stress on transmissions, either...I don't lead-foot it).
Also, with the new 2018, any TSB's and recall-problems discovered on the 2017's will, of course, most likely have been corrected on the new assembly line. Perhaps this could be a blessing in disguise.
Last edited by mmarshall; 04-21-17 at 12:59 PM.
#43
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^ That sucks they aren't taking orders on 2017's. I know in ye olden days of yearly model changes, the factory shut down for a month or more to "retool" during the summer. Is this still the case??? Because it could push your delivery date to WAY out there(like July or August).
I know dealers can also look around at other dealers stock, see if they have a LaCrosse in the color/trim you want, then have it shipped to your local dealer. I know this happened when my mom bought her 2012 Camry V6 SE. She was really picky about wanting the V6 SE in grey, dealer tried hard to sell her hard on a black V6 SE they had on the lot(they had like 20 4 cylinders and 1 V6 on the lot) Ended up shipping one(or maybe they drove it) from a dealer in Lousville to Nashville.
Last edited by mmarshall; 04-21-17 at 06:34 PM.