2019 Toyota Supra
08-01-18, 07:10 AM
#136
Pole Position
But you did not merely express a 'different point of view'; you strongly questioned the existence of an entire established segment of the automotive industry. If your point was in fact that you do not understand the finances and/or enthusiasm of the car tuning industry, I suggest you start with that next time and leave out the rhetoric as that only made you appear ignorant. You will get less blowback that way, make this a more pleasant community, and avoid having to come back and attempt to play victim as you have in your posts above.
08-01-18, 08:00 AM
#137
Lexus Test Driver
08-01-18, 08:04 AM
#138
Lexus Test Driver
Not sure if this was posted but this was a release from Toyota UK:
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...r-tetsuya-tada
This is from Tada:
The last hurrah for Toyota sports cars with regular engines. Very sad!
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...r-tetsuya-tada
This is from Tada:
I think the new Supra will be the last present from Toyota to those who enjoy hearing the pleasing sound of a pure petrol engine at high revs.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 08-01-18 at 08:08 AM.
08-01-18, 09:12 AM
#139
Lexus Fanatic
Not sure if this was posted but this was a release from Toyota UK:
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...r-tetsuya-tada
This is from Tada:
The last hurrah for Toyota sports cars with regular engines. Very sad!
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...r-tetsuya-tada
This is from Tada:
The last hurrah for Toyota sports cars with regular engines. Very sad!
08-01-18, 09:15 AM
#140
Pole Position
Not sure if this was posted but this was a release from Toyota UK:
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...r-tetsuya-tada
This is from Tada:
The last hurrah for Toyota sports cars with regular engines. Very sad!
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/new-toyota-...r-tetsuya-tada
This is from Tada:
The last hurrah for Toyota sports cars with regular engines. Very sad!
08-01-18, 02:52 PM
#143
Yeah, even BMW announced their M cars will be hybrid/electric by 2030.
https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/07/21/b...ctric-by-2030/
https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/07/21/b...ctric-by-2030/
08-01-18, 07:24 PM
#144
Lexus Fanatic
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but 'real sports cars' won't have regular internal combustion engines for much longer.
didn't you know, 'smart people' want to rid the planet of all ICEs as quickly as possible, and given the regulatory landscape (except for what trump has and is attempting to roll back), powers that be have forced auto mfr's hands toward hybrids, plugins, etc.
didn't you know, 'smart people' want to rid the planet of all ICEs as quickly as possible, and given the regulatory landscape (except for what trump has and is attempting to roll back), powers that be have forced auto mfr's hands toward hybrids, plugins, etc.
08-01-18, 07:26 PM
#145
Lexus Fanatic
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i just got back from the uk where is every other car now seems to be bmw audi or mercedes and it got me thinking... why oh why did toyota make the supra a joint project with bmw? i just don't get it. clearly this is going to be mostly bmw with toyota tuning... 
i get that it will save toyota a load of money, but what's next, toyota jointly developing a sedan with honda?
i get that it will save toyota a load of money, but what's next, toyota jointly developing a sedan with honda?
08-01-18, 08:03 PM
#146
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i just got back from the uk where is every other car now seems to be bmw audi or mercedes and it got me thinking... why oh why did toyota make the supra a joint project with bmw? i just don't get it. clearly this is going to be mostly bmw with toyota tuning...
i get that it will save toyota a load of money, but what's next, toyota jointly developing a sedan with honda?
i get that it will save toyota a load of money, but what's next, toyota jointly developing a sedan with honda?
08-02-18, 03:18 AM
#147
but 'real sports cars' won't have regular internal combustion engines for much longer.
didn't you know, 'smart people' want to rid the planet of all ICEs as quickly as possible, and given the regulatory landscape (except for what trump has and is attempting to roll back), powers that be have forced auto mfr's hands toward hybrids, plugins, etc.
didn't you know, 'smart people' want to rid the planet of all ICEs as quickly as possible, and given the regulatory landscape (except for what trump has and is attempting to roll back), powers that be have forced auto mfr's hands toward hybrids, plugins, etc.
As to why did BMW and Toyota join efforts on low volume low profit vehicle... it is self explanatory.
08-02-18, 06:50 AM
#148
Lexus Fanatic
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08-02-18, 07:21 AM
#149
Pole Position
It all depends on how the Supra performs and the level of autonomy that Toyota has with the BMW hardware. If it can outperform the Z-whatever at a lower price with the same hardware, it can gloat a bit. Then again, the Z-whatever isnt exactly an iconic model to begin with.
08-02-18, 10:07 AM
#150
Lexus Fanatic
but 'real sports cars' won't have regular internal combustion engines for much longer.
didn't you know, 'smart people' want to rid the planet of all ICEs as quickly as possible, and given the regulatory landscape (except for what trump has and is attempting to roll back), powers that be have forced auto mfr's hands toward hybrids, plugins, etc.
didn't you know, 'smart people' want to rid the planet of all ICEs as quickly as possible, and given the regulatory landscape (except for what trump has and is attempting to roll back), powers that be have forced auto mfr's hands toward hybrids, plugins, etc.
Sports cars are pretty niche cars these days, I think companies will still offer straight IC engines for them into the future for buyers who want them or will just add a very mild hybrid/KERS systems to satisfy the dimwit politicians/regulators. I don't mind a mild hybrid system, I was talking about full electric or mostly hybrid with a small engine.