2019 Toyota Supra
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why don't you have BMWs then? it's also showing that toyota really couldn't care less about disappointing its most avid fans and is happy to stick a giant middle finger up to them by desecrating the famous Supra name, a car known as a JDM legend and one of the finest vehicles ever to come out of japan, the ghidorah to nissan's godzilla
nissan came out with their own in-house GT-R not even a decade after being on the verge of bankruptcy and it was an unbelievably phenomenally performing car that could put cars costing 2-3x as much to shame, meanwhile here we are with the world's most profitable car company doing as well as ever and they can't even be bothered to make a car only intended to be as fast as a porsche cayman
also it's not just shared with BMW it is a BMW so you get the dreaded BMW bonggggg bonggggg bonggggg when you open the door and start it up... unbelievable laziness on toyota's part, how would you feel if your 4runner was a dodge durango underneath that used chrysler parts?
nissan came out with their own in-house GT-R not even a decade after being on the verge of bankruptcy and it was an unbelievably phenomenally performing car that could put cars costing 2-3x as much to shame, meanwhile here we are with the world's most profitable car company doing as well as ever and they can't even be bothered to make a car only intended to be as fast as a porsche cayman
also it's not just shared with BMW it is a BMW so you get the dreaded BMW bonggggg bonggggg bonggggg when you open the door and start it up... unbelievable laziness on toyota's part, how would you feel if your 4runner was a dodge durango underneath that used chrysler parts?
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#1592
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why don't you have BMWs then? it's also showing that toyota really couldn't care less about disappointing its most avid fans and is happy to stick a giant middle finger up to them by desecrating the famous Supra name, a car known as a JDM legend and one of the finest vehicles ever to come out of japan, the ghidorah to nissan's godzilla
nissan came out with their own in-house GT-R not even a decade after being on the verge of bankruptcy and it was an unbelievably phenomenally performing car that could put cars costing 2-3x as much to shame, meanwhile here we are with the world's most profitable car company doing as well as ever and they can't even be bothered to make a car only intended to be as fast as a porsche cayman
also it's not just shared with BMW it is a BMW so you get the dreaded BMW bonggggg bonggggg bonggggg when you open the door and start it up... unbelievable laziness on toyota's part, how would you feel if your 4runner was a dodge durango underneath that used chrysler parts?
nissan came out with their own in-house GT-R not even a decade after being on the verge of bankruptcy and it was an unbelievably phenomenally performing car that could put cars costing 2-3x as much to shame, meanwhile here we are with the world's most profitable car company doing as well as ever and they can't even be bothered to make a car only intended to be as fast as a porsche cayman
also it's not just shared with BMW it is a BMW so you get the dreaded BMW bonggggg bonggggg bonggggg when you open the door and start it up... unbelievable laziness on toyota's part, how would you feel if your 4runner was a dodge durango underneath that used chrysler parts?
#1593
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why don't you have BMWs then? it's also showing that toyota really couldn't care less about disappointing its most avid fans and is happy to stick a giant middle finger up to them by desecrating the famous Supra name, a car known as a JDM legend and one of the finest vehicles ever to come out of japan, the ghidorah to nissan's godzilla
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#1594
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I didn't know you had a BRZ...those cars are pretty cool to drive and i'd only get a manual if i owned one. I was thinking of getting a beater BRZ or Miata in the future as I'd love the small car experience again. If I ever track a car again, i'd do the whole BRZ / Miata thing. Consumables are so cheap unlike these $50k+ sports cars like the Supra where tire replacements are over $1,200 and more if something breaks. These things are better reserved for canyon runs ![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Looking to get something new but limited choices for fun, light weight, NA, manual car.
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#1595
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Because at some point, people just have to move on from the idea that it has BMW chassis. Otherwise, it is just constant negativity, some people want to enjoy this forum or thread and read something a little more dreary than so much negative stuff. I am most curious to see how Toyota does with this and if it strengthens the Toyota brand.
I would probably be disappointed. I guess I shall cross that bridge when it comes...but if I did not like it, I would probably just move on.
I would probably be disappointed. I guess I shall cross that bridge when it comes...but if I did not like it, I would probably just move on.
#1596
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That's the part that those knocking the Supra actually don't understand. Some people bought the car and they love it. You can point out everything that sucks about it, but they still love their car. And last time I checked, it was their sixty thousand dollars that bought it.
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#1597
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Nobody is knocking ppl for buying it as everyone has their own criteria for what they prefer.
Many ppl hate 86/BRZ - to me its still an amazing fun car. But i know its not perfect and well aware of its shortcomings. Same for this Supra.
i think for ppl that remember the MKIV, this new one is a disappointment.
Many ppl hate 86/BRZ - to me its still an amazing fun car. But i know its not perfect and well aware of its shortcomings. Same for this Supra.
i think for ppl that remember the MKIV, this new one is a disappointment.
#1598
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Here is the 1 month update from C&D on their long-term test of the Supra:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ign=nl19902922
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ign=nl19902922
#1599
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That's the part that those knocking the Supra actually don't understand. Some people bought the car and they love it. You can point out everything that sucks about it, but they still love their car. And last time I checked, it was their sixty thousand dollars that bought it.
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Because at some point, people just have to move on from the idea that it has BMW chassis. Otherwise, it is just constant negativity, some people want to enjoy this forum or thread and read something a little less dreary than so much negative stuff. I am most curious to see how Toyota does with this and if it strengthens the Toyota brand.
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I agree with everything you said in your post. But It’s clear the people running Toyota today are not the same folks who ran Toyota while they built amazing sports cars back in the 80’s snd 90’s. I assume all those old timers have retired and they have hired a bunch of bean counters to replace those free thinkers. You should definitely check out this book. It gives a lot of insight to what goes on behind closed doors at these big automakers headquarters.
thanks for the book recommendation, i just might!
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that certainly seems to be the case, i'd like to know how my main homie Eiji would feel about akio's leadership... they have more reputation to rely on now, and toyota execs obviously realize they can still sell cars off of that without needing to build them as well, or even at all lol
thanks for the book recommendation, i just might!
thanks for the book recommendation, i just might!
#1604
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Akio's leadership has kept the bean counters and stockholders happy. Toyota is very different than Nissan and Honda, they are literally worth both than both of them combined yet Nissan has the GTR and Honda the NSX neither of which was done with any partnership but Toyota doesn't have their own in house sports car. That alone should tell you where Toyota's focus is.
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i have to disagree, toyota needs to know that this should not be repeated, had they just called it something else much of people's negativity would be completely avoided... but they know that the hype from the old supra is enough to make this whole project financially worth it for them
They are cashing in on people's nostalgia. Some even pointed out that they could've recycled the Lexus' V6 engine for the Supra if they really wanted to. I even implied this on the AE86 thread here but people were actually denying that a modern Corolla isn't related to the AE86.
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