2019 Toyota Supra
08-18-19, 11:16 PM
#1277
Lead Lap
the supra when it came out was seriously one of the best rounded performance cars somebody could walk into a showroom and buy... the zupra in terms of today's market is just a faster than average car, yet toyota is happy to use the supra name and throw around all their 'the legend is back' literature on the website to get people excited and allow dealers to justify enormous markups
i could almost forgive toyota for the bmw partnership if they made an all new model and allowed the supra name to rest peacefully, a mysterious elusive product of a foregone era that we will continue to lust after, and dream about overnighting parts from japan to make it decimate all... but instead toyota pulled a star wars phantom menace and decided to revive the supra name for something way less impressive than the previous iteration
08-18-19, 11:20 PM
#1278
Lead Lap
i think i'll use B58 as my safe word
08-19-19, 04:52 AM
#1279
Attended a local Cars and Coffee meet today at Katie's in McLean, VA. Some Toyo Corp folks were there with a MKV and saved us some parking spots. It was me (Black MKIV), 2 other MKIV's and a MKIII. This was my first time up close with the MKV, the Toyota team there were very professional and handled the BMW jabs with ease 
. They were pretty excited about our "old" Supras being there too.
. They were pretty excited about our "old" Supras being there too.
08-19-19, 08:36 AM
#1280
Lead Lap
08-19-19, 07:51 PM
#1281
Lead Lap
08-20-19, 02:36 AM
#1282
That's an excellent safe word
08-20-19, 04:46 AM
#1283
Supra won't last long in the market. C8 is a direct competitor and will kill it off. Other than fanboys, nobody is going to pay $50k+ for a Supra when they can jump in a base Corvette for $60k. And the base Corvette isn't some stripped down, compromise car. It''s well equipment for the price. The Z51 for $5k is about the only thing I require above the base. With that, you've got a car that looks and performs with the exotics for $65k. Easy decision to pick the C8 over the Supra for an extra $10k.
08-20-19, 05:03 AM
#1284
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
First off $10k isn’t chump change, plus as you say, most Corvettes won’t be ‘base’ at $60K so the gap from Zupra will be even more.
The Zupra will appeal to those appreciating BMW’s engineering and Toyota’s reliability. Kind of have your cake and eat it too.
Personally i just don’t think it looks that great, but some like its over the top styling with fake non-functional vents everywhere.
some will get it for nostalgia’s sake and because they’re comfortable knowing it can be modded/tuned with 3rd party software and parts that aren’t too radical. But the truth is, again, cars like tesla have ruined the actual performance ‘cred’ of cars like a supra.
The Zupra will appeal to those appreciating BMW’s engineering and Toyota’s reliability. Kind of have your cake and eat it too.
Personally i just don’t think it looks that great, but some like its over the top styling with fake non-functional vents everywhere.
some will get it for nostalgia’s sake and because they’re comfortable knowing it can be modded/tuned with 3rd party software and parts that aren’t too radical. But the truth is, again, cars like tesla have ruined the actual performance ‘cred’ of cars like a supra.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 08-20-19 at 05:29 AM.
08-20-19, 07:28 AM
#1285
Pole Position
First off $10k isn’t chump change, plus as you say, most Corvettes won’t be ‘base’ at $60K so the gap from Zupra will be even more.
The Zupra will appeal to those appreciating BMW’s engineering and Toyota’s reliability. Kind of have your cake and eat it too.
Personally i just don’t think it looks that great, but some like its over the top styling with fake non-functional vents everywhere.
some will get it for nostalgia’s sake and because they’re comfortable knowing it can be modded/tuned with 3rd party software and parts that aren’t too radical. But the truth is, again, cars like tesla have ruined the actual performance ‘cred’ of cars like a supra.
The Zupra will appeal to those appreciating BMW’s engineering and Toyota’s reliability. Kind of have your cake and eat it too.
Personally i just don’t think it looks that great, but some like its over the top styling with fake non-functional vents everywhere.
some will get it for nostalgia’s sake and because they’re comfortable knowing it can be modded/tuned with 3rd party software and parts that aren’t too radical. But the truth is, again, cars like tesla have ruined the actual performance ‘cred’ of cars like a supra.
08-20-19, 08:07 AM
#1286
And with all the creative financing and leasing options today, the $10k difference would only be about $125 a month in most cases. Unless someone is already pushing their budget to get into the Supra, the extra money is a no-brainer for what you get.
08-20-19, 08:20 AM
#1288
Most dealers were gouging the numbered Launch Edition Cars not the Base or Premium which has the same engine. Even with that you could still find Launch Editions without markups if you looked around. C8 availability is another thing my friends dad ordered one and it's a one year wait for him for delivery, that's a long time. He ordered a base with Z51 package I believe.
08-20-19, 08:56 AM
#1289
Lexus Champion
The pricing divide between the C8 and new Supra is not currently that big. Several dealers are still listing the Supra at MSRP so there's no need to pay a premium.
However, in time, I suspect that you'll be able to get a Supra at or below MSRP, while the C8 will, I think, creep up over the next few years, as happened with the C7. So in a couple of years, they will likely be further separated.
However, in time, I suspect that you'll be able to get a Supra at or below MSRP, while the C8 will, I think, creep up over the next few years, as happened with the C7. So in a couple of years, they will likely be further separated.
