Lexus 5GS spy ****s???
#33
Lexus Fanatic
I don't think they will make the same mistake twice with that lousy 4 cylinder being the main engine, GS sales have plummeted ever since that disappointing 4cyl was the standard engine and the same 6 cylinder went up in price. All GS-F competitors have 8 cylinders, I think they will stick with a 8 cylinder, likely turbo charged. Even a base GS needs to be a clear step above a ES, another 4cylinder is not going to work.
#34
Pole Position
The GS has traditionally been positioned half a step higher than the Crown.
No doubt the 4 cylinder turbo will be the entry level in the 5GS lineup but the GR V6 turbo in the Crown will probably be the top-end engine in the normal 5GS.
Next gen GS-F will probably get a V8 turbo.
No doubt the 4 cylinder turbo will be the entry level in the 5GS lineup but the GR V6 turbo in the Crown will probably be the top-end engine in the normal 5GS.
Next gen GS-F will probably get a V8 turbo.
#36
Lexus Test Driver
I don't think they will make the same mistake twice with that lousy 4 cylinder being the main engine, GS sales have plummeted ever since that disappointing 4cyl was the standard engine and the same 6 cylinder went up in price. All GS-F competitors have 8 cylinders, I think they will stick with a 8 cylinder, likely turbo charged. Even a base GS needs to be a clear step above a ES, another 4cylinder is not going to work.
#37
The GS has traditionally been positioned half a step higher than the Crown.
No doubt the 4 cylinder turbo will be the entry level in the 5GS lineup but the GR V6 turbo in the Crown will probably be the top-end engine in the normal 5GS.
Next gen GS-F will probably get a V8 turbo.
No doubt the 4 cylinder turbo will be the entry level in the 5GS lineup but the GR V6 turbo in the Crown will probably be the top-end engine in the normal 5GS.
Next gen GS-F will probably get a V8 turbo.
#38
Moderator
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My $0.02 on the next GS would be something like this:
The 2019 5GS (300B program) will undoubtedly have a 2.0L turbo 4 as the base engine (likely renamed GS300 if the 2018 NX300 is any indication), but the 8AR-FTS engine will likely receive a power bump and torque raised to match competitors around 270lbft.
Next step up a GS400/GS500 with the new 3.5L TTV6 borrowed from the LS500 (Toyota internal engine code: 943F). This mill should be in the ballpark of 360hp-400hp
A GS500h could potentially be in the cards too, borrowing the 354 total system power and new Multi-Speed transmission powertrain from the LC500h. If they take a page from the 2018 Camry hybrid book, they can relocate the battery under the rear seats hopefully to allow a 60/40 split rear seat feature.
Lastly a GS F with a rumored 4.0L TTV8 would follow around 2020/21.
The 2019 5GS (300B program) will undoubtedly have a 2.0L turbo 4 as the base engine (likely renamed GS300 if the 2018 NX300 is any indication), but the 8AR-FTS engine will likely receive a power bump and torque raised to match competitors around 270lbft.
Next step up a GS400/GS500 with the new 3.5L TTV6 borrowed from the LS500 (Toyota internal engine code: 943F). This mill should be in the ballpark of 360hp-400hp
A GS500h could potentially be in the cards too, borrowing the 354 total system power and new Multi-Speed transmission powertrain from the LC500h. If they take a page from the 2018 Camry hybrid book, they can relocate the battery under the rear seats hopefully to allow a 60/40 split rear seat feature.
Lastly a GS F with a rumored 4.0L TTV8 would follow around 2020/21.
#40
My $0.02 on the next GS would be something like this:
The 2019 5GS (300B program) will undoubtedly have a 2.0L turbo 4 as the base engine (likely renamed GS300 if the 2018 NX300 is any indication), but the 8AR-FTS engine will likely receive a power bump and torque raised to match competitors around 270lbft.
Next step up a GS400/GS500 with the new 3.5L TTV6 borrowed from the LS500 (Toyota internal engine code: 943F). This mill should be in the ballpark of 360hp-400hp
A GS500h could potentially be in the cards too, borrowing the 354 total system power and new Multi-Speed transmission powertrain from the LC500h. If they take a page from the 2018 Camry hybrid book, they can relocate the battery under the rear seats hopefully to allow a 60/40 split rear seat feature.
Lastly a GS F with a rumored 4.0L TTV8 would follow around 2020/21.
The 2019 5GS (300B program) will undoubtedly have a 2.0L turbo 4 as the base engine (likely renamed GS300 if the 2018 NX300 is any indication), but the 8AR-FTS engine will likely receive a power bump and torque raised to match competitors around 270lbft.
Next step up a GS400/GS500 with the new 3.5L TTV6 borrowed from the LS500 (Toyota internal engine code: 943F). This mill should be in the ballpark of 360hp-400hp
A GS500h could potentially be in the cards too, borrowing the 354 total system power and new Multi-Speed transmission powertrain from the LC500h. If they take a page from the 2018 Camry hybrid book, they can relocate the battery under the rear seats hopefully to allow a 60/40 split rear seat feature.
Lastly a GS F with a rumored 4.0L TTV8 would follow around 2020/21.
But Lexus will surprise us all as usual, and make the 5GS a front wheel drive based off of the all new Camry
But on a serious note, I do hope at least the 3.5 TTV6 makes it to the new GS, untouched by Lexus. We all know the story of the 3GS460.
#41
Bit, don't you think 2018 Crown looks similar to 2018 5LS especially the C pillar area?
I think 5LS better styled than Crown.
I think 5LS better styled than Crown.