Bogglo

All I can say is the LS would still be unique. And with Mercedes, BMW, and Audi making a 6 cylinder version of their flagship sedan. I think it is safe to say Lexus would be pricing the new LS against them. The only thing I still notice is none of the German V6 is has powerful as the LS but they are close.

Rhambler

Well remains to be seen where Lexus prices the LS. Part of me thinks they'll price it like it's a V8.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if the lower-powered V6 from the Germans will be faster than the LS500 just because of how overrated Toyota's tend to be versus how conservative the Germans are in their ratings and performance figures, which would make their pricing strategy even stranger, assuming it's priced like a V8.

Considering how poor the Toyota 4 cylinder "long stroke" turbo engine turned out to be, kind of makes you wonder how poor the 3.5 liter will be in real-world driving if they share similar design elements or are part of Toyota's new shared platform engines.

SW17LS

I just don't see how that makes any sense. The Lexus TTV6 is like 80 hp more than competitors V6s.

Rhambler

Just wait and see.

The Audi V6 A8 with less power will probably test faster than the LS 500.

So far, the dynamic force engines are proving to be duds, assuming the IS 200t is a dynamic force.

GoHuskers

@Rhambler - no one has ever driven the new Lexus 3.5TT yet so making judgement based on the ENTRY level engine which was debut 4 years ago shows prejudice and lack of considerations.

Certain people care about HP and straight-line performance while others care about the TOTAL package.

Rhambler

Yeah the "older" crowd. Just kidding...

Bogglo

Yeah I was going to say that too. But, I have a feeling Lexus would not fumble on the TTV6 considering the fact that they want it to compete with the V8 variants of the competitors and if there is any plan of that engine trickling down to the performance versions of the IS, RC, and maybe the GS. Unless they have a surprise V8 lurking some where that won't be "LSF".(Personally I still think there would be a V8 LS. I suspect Lexus is playing a waiting game to see what the competitors have coming out).

LeX2K

Audi what have you done? Looks like a tweaked Volkswagen. And what's with the excessive use of horizontal lines, the entire package is okay but completely forgettable.

SW17LS

It's the truth, look inside a flagship luxury sedan when they go by.

Sulu

The first Dynamic Force engine is the totally new 2.5-litre naturally-aspirated 4-cylinder in the all-new Camry. No one, except the professional car reviewers, has driven it yet (and those who have only drove it for a short period of time). You are being blinded by your preconceptions, based on your limited experience with one engine. Based on this one bad experience, you are arguing that all Toyota/Lexus engines, old, new and not yet driven, are bad.

Kira X

iTrader: (24)

It looks good to me.

Johnhav430

Looking forward to seeing one show up at work....one of the guys was surprised the tails are OLEDs....

LeX2K

No talking just imagery. The exterior lighting effects are neat.

arentz07

Hopefully this isn't a case like the IS 200t where the relative claimed figures don't match the acceleration times. :/

As for the A8, I like it, but tbh, it looks kinda how I would have expected a new A6 to look. I liked the squared-off edges of the A8 in the previous gen.

Rhambler

I think I'm making a reasonable assumption considering that IS engine was the last turbo engine Toyota produced (and it was very recently). Now it may not be a dynamic force engine, but I doubt the fruit falls far from the tree. That engine has the same long stroke design coming out in the 3.5 liter and both were produced 100% in house, no Yamaha I think.

In any case, when Toyota says 4.5 seconds, based on past precedent, I doubt it's 4.5 seconds.

Those two items are enough to draw some conclusions. But we'll see soon enough I'm sure.