2019 Toyota Avalon
02-05-18, 08:19 AM
#451
There hasn’t been any structural changes made to the 4th gen Avalon since it’s last major redesign in 2013. Not 100% for sure on additional sound deadening being added, but if it was they would’ve addressed it during the 2016 mid life cycle refresh. 2017 and 2018 are completely carry over from the 2016 MY with the exception of maybe a paint color being added or discontinued. 2019 Avalon will be on dealer lots late spring 2018.
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02-05-18, 08:46 AM
#452
Lexus Fanatic
Toyota will make make changes to a the structure of a vehicle to address safety if its a high volume seller. They did this in 2014 with the Camry by untroducing a 2014.5 Camry after it was revealed the Camry failed the small overlap crash test.
There hasn’t been any structural changes made to the 4th gen Avalon since it’s last major redesign in 2013. Not 100% for sure on additional sound deadening being added, but if it was they would’ve addressed it during the 2016 mid life cycle refresh. 2017 and 2018 are completely carry over from the 2016 MY with the exception of maybe a paint color being added or discontinued. 2019 Avalon will be on dealer lots late spring 2018.
Only the touring once officially offered in 2016 has a bit more weight to it. 50-75lbs I think.
02-05-18, 08:47 AM
#453
Lexus Fanatic
I have a 2013 GS350 with this feature. I think it’s only active when the sport **** is turned right. This feature just pipes more intake induction noise into the cabin it’s different from the RC-F and GS-F where one can turn on and off additional noise added from the cars speakers. Also I the 2019 Avalon launches in late Spring 2018.
02-05-18, 09:29 AM
#454
Lexus Champion
Without a major re-design, though, one (usually) can't realistically do the kind of structural changes you're referring to. Remember....I was talking about the mid-cycle update for 2016 and perhaps other small changes for 2018....it would be far simpler just to add door-insulation. The major redesign will bow next year.....2019.
And, BTW, insulation doesn't have to be bulky or heavy. Buick, for example, compared to the 2016, managed to take 300 pounds out of the all-new 2017 Lacrosse.......all the while making the car longer, wider, and even quieter running.
And, BTW, insulation doesn't have to be bulky or heavy. Buick, for example, compared to the 2016, managed to take 300 pounds out of the all-new 2017 Lacrosse.......all the while making the car longer, wider, and even quieter running.
Toyota will make make changes to a the structure of a vehicle to address safety if its a high volume seller. They did this in 2014 with the Camry by untroducing a 2014.5 Camry after it was revealed the Camry failed the small overlap crash test.
There hasn’t been any structural changes made to the 4th gen Avalon since it’s last major redesign in 2013. Not 100% for sure on additional sound deadening being added, but if it was they would’ve addressed it during the 2016 mid life cycle refresh. 2017 and 2018 are completely carry over from the 2016 MY with the exception of maybe a paint color being added or discontinued. 2019 Avalon will be on dealer lots late spring 2018.
The Avalon, when introduced new as a 2013 model, was not tested for the small overlap crash and was not tested until 2015, giving Toyota time to make the changes to the Avalon's structure that it did to the Camry's front structure a year earlier. I have no doubt that the Camry and Avalon share a similar front structure, given that they share the same platform. These non-cosmetic mid-cycle changes are not something that Toyota PR advertises.
02-05-18, 09:32 AM
#455
Lexus Fanatic
Toyota did make mid-cycle structural changes to the Camry in December 2013 -- calling it the 2014.5 Toyota Camry -- to improve IIHS small overlap crashworthiness. I cannot find now what those changes were but seem to remember reading at the time that Toyota strengthened the area where the driver's side front door pillar, firewall and floor / rocker panel meet; those changes did not add much weight.
The Avalon, when introduced new as a 2013 model, was not tested for the small overlap crash and was not tested until 2015, giving Toyota time to make the changes to the Avalon's structure that it did to the Camry's front structure a year earlier. I have no doubt that the Camry and Avalon share a similar front structure, given that they share the same platform. These non-cosmetic mid-cycle changes are not something that Toyota PR advertises.
The Avalon, when introduced new as a 2013 model, was not tested for the small overlap crash and was not tested until 2015, giving Toyota time to make the changes to the Avalon's structure that it did to the Camry's front structure a year earlier. I have no doubt that the Camry and Avalon share a similar front structure, given that they share the same platform. These non-cosmetic mid-cycle changes are not something that Toyota PR advertises.
02-05-18, 09:54 AM
#456
Lexus Champion
02-05-18, 09:55 AM
#457
Lexus Champion
I have a 2013 GS350 with this feature. I think it’s only active when the sport **** is turned right. This feature just pipes more intake induction noise into the cabin it’s different from the RC-F and GS-F where one can turn on and off additional noise added from the cars speakers. Also I the 2019 Avalon launches in late Spring 2018.
02-05-18, 09:58 AM
#458
Lexus Fanatic
So you are just saying you read that there were structural changes? I doubt anything changed other than air bags perhaps were added or modified for crash tests. The drivers door rating progressed from 2013 to 2015
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02-05-18, 11:23 AM
#459
The Toyota Camry was redesigned for the 2012 model year. Beginning with 2014 models built after December 2013, the front structure was modified to improve occupant protection in small overlap frontal crashes. (Information about when a specific vehicle was manufactured is on the certification label typically affixed to the car on the driver door or adjacent B-pillar.) For new car buyers, the 2014 cars with the modifications are listed as "2014.5" models on the window sticker.
02-05-18, 11:27 AM
#460
Lexus Fanatic
This is off topic to the thread (Avalon), but there were definitely structural changes made to the Camry to be re-tested in light of the poor small overlap results from the 2014 vehicle. Airbags were not added.
From IIHS IIHS 2014 - 2014.5 Camry
From IIHS IIHS 2014 - 2014.5 Camry
02-05-18, 12:36 PM
#462
Lexus Fanatic
One does not necessarily have to plan in advance on driving something for it to sometimes be a reality. At one time, I thought I'd never have an Outback.....or another GM compact after my lemon Citation......or a Toyota Tercel (briefly owned one for a couple of years as a second winter-beater car)........or any small car, for that matter (I was sold on big, full-size cars in my youth). Yet, all became a reality at one time or another.
Yeah, I know......I've been saying I'd never own a self-driver, but...............
Yeah, I know......I've been saying I'd never own a self-driver, but...............
02-05-18, 12:44 PM
#463
Lexus Champion
One does not necessarily have to plan in advance on driving something for it to sometimes be a reality. At one time, I thought I'd never have an Outback.....or another GM compact after my lemon Citation......or a Toyota Tercel (briefly owned one for a couple of years as a second winter-beater car)........or any small car, for that matter (I was sold on big, full-size cars in my youth). Yet, all became a reality at one time or another.
Yeah, I know......I've been saying I'd never own a self-driver, but...............
Yeah, I know......I've been saying I'd never own a self-driver, but...............
02-05-18, 03:00 PM
#464
Lexus Fanatic
Nah. Too much money for me and too big a car. Ever since we got a Matrix, then a CTh and now a Corolla. I like small cars that are light. If I were to spend Avalon money, I would rather get a RWD smaller car like a Q50 or IS. A3 is nice size. Honestly, we are in no need for a new car, but I would likely get a Civic hatch or a Accord next go around. I think both of those are worth leaving the Toyota brand. I kinda would like to try out a turbo next time around.
02-05-18, 04:34 PM
#465
Lexus Fanatic
Nah. Too much money for me and too big a car. Ever since we got a Matrix, then a CTh and now a Corolla. I like small cars that are light. If I were to spend Avalon money, I would rather get a RWD smaller car like a Q50 or IS. A3 is nice size. Honestly, we are in no need for a new car, but I would likely get a Civic hatch or a Accord next go around. I think both of those are worth leaving the Toyota brand. I kinda would like to try out a turbo next time around.