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Old 07-21-17, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
I'd argue the Kia Soul is king of the hatchbacks. The base model is really nice for the price, TONS of room, IMO it looks better than the Fit, has proven to be reliable, and just has a lot more refinement, it doesn't have that tin can feel like the Fit. If you want options, the Soul has you covered there too, optional 200hp turbo motor, something you can't get in a Fit. If you want something that's fun to drive, the Fiesta ST is a riot and 19-20k out the door.

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I'd argue that the vw gti is the king of the hatchbacks. Many automakers use the vw as a benchmark.
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Old 07-21-17, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
I'd argue the Kia Soul is king of the hatchbacks.
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I'd argue that the vw gti is the king of the hatchbacks.
Actually, it's difficult to argue with the Soul's sales figures.
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Old 07-21-17, 06:21 AM
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Actually, it's difficult to argue with the Soul's sales figures.
Fewer enthusiasts, fewer sales. The GTI is totally the king. The Soul is largely something one takes to soccer practice.
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OK folks, this thread is about the Avalon, let's head back there
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Old 07-21-17, 06:34 AM
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Here's a video of the 2019 Avalon spy-shots, though the boring, cut-and-dried computer-voice leaves a lot to be desired:

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Originally Posted by peteharvey
No, Toyota was never the gold standard, except for reliability, but they did do consistently well.
This Avalon in disguise actually looks okay compared to the forthcoming Toyota Crown/Lexus 5GS, and the all new 2017-22 Series Accords.
If you thought the 5LS was bad, wait till yo use the new Accord.

Honda is slipping.
Sony really slipping and struggling to fight back with mirrorless cameras.
Panasonic and Sharp are gone...
The 1992 Camry was considered the Gold Standard back then, I believe it was Automobile Mag that called it that or JD Powers. I forgot.
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Originally Posted by situman
The 1992 Camry was considered the Gold Standard back then, I believe it was Automobile Mag that called it that or JD Powers. I forgot.
ok that's 25 years ago, so let's get back to the present and this new avalon.
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Even though the article says New Camry. I have a feeling this could actually be how the new Avalon ends up looking like. What do you all think ?

Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/142971/t...auto-shanghai/



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Cool render. Definitely has the latest Toyota / Lexus design cues. The rear reminds me of the LC. Wish the wheel base could be a bit larger on this render.
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Originally Posted by sorptd
Even though the article says New Camry. I have a feeling this could actually be how the new Avalon ends up looking like. What do you all think ?

Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/142971/t...auto-shanghai/



Possible... but the spy shots suggest a window in the C-pillar, like the current-generation Avalon.

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That's a Kia Cadenza on the right hand side they're testing against.
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That's a Kia Cadenza on the right hand side they're testing against.
I was not implying that the car next to it is the current-generation Avalon.
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Originally Posted by Sulu
I was not implying that the car next to it is the current-generation Avalon.
that's not what I meant if it sounded that way. I meant the Camo Toyota in the image is being tested against a Cadenza. Sorry for the confusion.
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Originally Posted by sorptd
Even though the article says New Camry. I have a feeling this could actually be how the new Avalon ends up looking like. What do you all think ?

Source: https://www.motor1.com/news/142971/t...auto-shanghai/



I think you might be right. if the Avalon looks that good. Then I really want to see what the next ES would look like. That grill might need to be toned down a little.
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Too much coupe in the styling. I'm a firm believer in sedans looking like sedans....though the hump-back rooflines, head-banging rear entry/exit, and bite-size trunk lids seem to be the rage nowadays.
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