2019 Toyota Avalon
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Then it appears the fish gape will continue on and grow. Bummer. Back end looks much sportier. A lot of Camry details sprinkled throughout. LED headlights are pure Audi Q7- shameful.
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This time, hopefully (2019), Toyota will get it right the first time. The last major redesign for the Avalon resulted in some (IMO) flimsy parts inside, too-firm underpinnings, and too stiff a ride for most of those who were attracted to this class of vehicle. A quick-softening of the suspension/tires had to be done on all but the Touring versions.
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https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ooths-the-ride
As for the interior, I don't mind, but I think the ES350 has a better design and feel to it.
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Perhaps, but Toyota did not spend the time and money they did to redo the all-new 2014 Avalon suspension again for 2016 for nothing. They got a lot of complaints about the too-firm underpinnings. I noticed it myself, even on a brief test-drive at the D.C. Auto show that year a few blocks around the show's building. (Toyota and a few other manufacturers set up that test-drive each year for their latest offerings).
Perhaps you should of?
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This time, hopefully (2019), Toyota will get it right the first time. The last major redesign for the Avalon resulted in some (IMO) flimsy parts inside, too-firm underpinnings, and too stiff a ride for most of those who were attracted to this class of vehicle. A quick-softening of the suspension/tires had to be done on all but the Touring versions.
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Perhaps, but Toyota did not spend the time and money they did to redo the all-new 2014 Avalon suspension again for 2016 for nothing. They got a lot of complaints about the too-firm underpinnings. I noticed it myself, even on a brief test-drive at the D.C. Auto show that year a few blocks around the show's building. (Toyota and a few other manufacturers set up that test-drive each year for their latest offerings).
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ooths-the-ride
Yes, somewhat, but still not up to the level of the Genesis G80 which, IMO, in comparison, feels like it is carved out of a block of granite. Had I not chosen the Lacrosse, that is probably what I would have got.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...ooths-the-ride
Yes, somewhat, but still not up to the level of the Genesis G80 which, IMO, in comparison, feels like it is carved out of a block of granite. Had I not chosen the Lacrosse, that is probably what I would have got.
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Avalon sales aren't holding up as well as the ES. Thru November: Avalon 30.2k (-30%) and ES 46.4k (-11%). The 2019 Avalon should help sales, but CUV's and SUV's will probably do the bulk of the sales.
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Avalon is still clipping away at about 1/2 what the current gen model sold in its first year. I would say that it is not bad at all. I also think the sales are higher than the final year of production for previous gen.
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As for the Avalon, the 13 redesign was very well regarded among auto publications which is a very difficult thing to do for that class of vehicle. It has always gotten great comments about fit and finish and interior quality. It won the Car & Driver comparo against the current Impala and others in 14. Plus, I have read the 13/14 model is one of the quietest cars on the road (I think more muted than an LS460). Lastly it should be commanded that it comes with standard leather and not the faux stuff. Honestly tho, I would rather have a ES350.
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I used the 2013 moniker because the first models actually went on sale in December of 2012, but, technically, you're right..it was considered a 2014 model.
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Just for the record, though, bit's correct....I do love most of the things about my car, with the only exceptions being one or two details in how the climate-functions are displayed, a quirk in the way the red engine-warning lights come on at start-up, and the fact that my trim-level (Preferred) does not have the automatic tilt-down in reverse for the outside mirrors....but I didn't feel the more expensive versions (and packages) were worth the money. Like you, I agree that it would be nice to have the tri-color shield on the steering wheel, instead of the chrome-outline, and a traditional big-Buick hood ornament, but thats just (minor) cosmetic stuff, nit-picking, and doesn't really affect the car itself.
As for the Avalon, the 13 redesign was very well regarded among auto publications which is a very difficult thing to do for that class of vehicle. It has always gotten great comments about fit and finish and interior quality. It won the Car & Driver comparo against the current Impala and others in 14. Plus, I have read the 13/14 model is one of the quietest cars on the road (I think more muted than an LS460). Lastly it should be commanded that it comes with standard leather and not the faux stuff. Honestly tho, I would rather have a ES350.
(Now they're probably going to have to do the same with the C-HR LOL)
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My expectation is that the next gen model will have an adaptive variable suspension as an available option.
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My expectation is that the next gen model will have an adaptive variable suspension as an available option.