Johnhav430

Since I don't follow the co., what is the equivalent of say a 2005 TL? Because back in the day, they were nice and my cousin had a 6-spd manual with clutch. Also, I remember Integras which were highly regarded. My buddy's wife had a RL and it was a total disaster, the worst car he says they have ever had. My uncle has a 2007 and the dealer could not figure out why his battery would be dead every 2 days--the dealer. An indie found it.

When I see Acuras on the road today, they don't strike as being high quality, nor do Infinitis (looked at one up close that was on display at the mall, looked really cheap). I think I can objectively say they don't have a really strong image at this point, maybe they should just keep the NSX (as a trophy car for Honda Motor) and nix all the other models?

oldcajun

Personally I don't think Acura can continue with their existing sedans. The Honda sedans have migrated to new platforms so it makes little sense from a manufacturing standpoint to continue to make the old platforms for just the low volume ILX and TLX. This platform change creates an opportunity for Acura to go in new directions. Honda's new engine focus seems to be on turbos with smaller displacements and the new platform for the Civic has put it back at the top of the compact field. If they follow through with Acura, it could be good news for enthusiasts. The V-6 is gone from the Accord so what happens to the Pilot, Ridgeline, RDX, and MDX. It looks to me like a place for a smaller turbo V-6 much like the Infiniti 3 liter engine.

For the RLX, it needs to be all new and lots better. A stretch of the new Accord platform, a 400 hp turbo V-6, and standard SH-AWD for starters.
Steve

Toys4RJill

I agree. The issue with Acura is not their cross overs. They need a better plan for their current car line up. Although I don't believe they need to follow what Lexus is doing, they really need one car platform that can serve multiple price points.

Toys4RJill

Its always so awesome when one gets a new car. Looking forward to reading about it. When I got my last Toyota, the called and asked me to come in on Friday the 13th to pick it up. I said, no chance. I waited till the 14th, one extra day. I can understand why do you would not want to pick it up on a rainy day.

mmarshall

Rainy days are also not good days to do a pre-delivery check-out, for two reasons. First, they can hide problems in the paint job, and, second, the swishing noises you get from the tires and spray in the wheel-wells can mask the effectiveness of the normal sound-insulation (the V6 Lacrosse, of course, has a reputation for good sound-insulation).

LexBob2

It will be interesting to see what Acura does with their cars. I'm sure the division has a short and long term plan. I hope they are successful. The competition and variety is good.

jadu

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bring back the ITR

mmarshall

Except for the Accord-look-alike styling (and I still thought it was handsome), I still don't see why the last-generation RL did not sell. It was built like a tank, had extremely good hardware inside and out, had (at that time) one of the most advanced AWD systems in the industry, and could be bought for deep discounts to boot.

Rezno

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They really just need to make Acura-exclusive engines that aren't just a hybrid add on. The problem is that they use the exact same engines found in Honda vehicles (Side note: I do want to see them put the Civic Type R engine in the ILX and add their AWD system but that is really the only exception). I understand that they will run forever, but I won't pay a premium over an Accord just because the TLX has a slightly nicer interior. At first, Acura used 8, 9, and 10 speed transmissions that were exclusively for their cars and you could make an argument that the transmissions made the cars slightly more worth it but now there is literally nothing incentivising me to get a TLX over an Accord with a V6 or an IS, Q50, 3 series, etc. The 2008 TL Type S was really the last Acura sedan that actually could compete with the IS, G37, 3 series, etc. of its time. Acura needs to scrap those engines and start new. They don't have to make a crazy 500+ HP engine, but just something new with 320+ HP to start to become competitive again with their luxury brand rivals. Styling is controversial but they should probably focus more on driveline than anything else. Interiors aren't bad either. Hopefully the rumors of the ILX and TLX Type S end up happening and we can actually see a TLX be able to keep up with rivals in terms of performance.

Their SUVs are doing fine though but could also benefit from a new driveline.

Johnhav430

This happened with my BMW, it came in on a Friday morning, pouring rain, so I said I would pick it up Sat. morning. They explained that it would likely have 1 mile more on the odometer as they would have to store it down the road at the Mini dealership (they have since renovated so even serviced vehicles remain inside overnight), would that be ok? I told them no, I do not want excessive mileage so kindly trailer it enclosed, because I don't want it getting wet, if they were shipped from port covered, they need to remain covered until I pick it up. j/k, but it did have an extra mile on it the next day, not much I could do about that.

GSteg

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Move. Away. From. The. J-series. Engine.


Seriously, the J-series debut in 1996 and since then all they've done was enlarge the engine and add stuff here and there.

S2000toIS350

Hopefully the Precision Concept is what's next.

https://www.acura.com/future-vehicles/precision-concept

That was shown in early 2016 so they should be close on this one.

I concur that a new mill is in order. Perhaps a decontented version of my NSX motor (ok, unlikely) with a RWD platform.

KahnBB6

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Wherever they go next they really ought to embrace more of their 1990's roots.

The 1991-1995 Legend coupe and sedan wasn't ultimately the best car competing at the time but it was one of their best cars ever and still lives up to its namesake. SH-AWD, dual-clutch transmissions and turbocharged and hybrid-electric technologies are all great but they are hardly makers of dynamic, good looking and fun to drive modest luxury vehicles as they used to be.

The current NSX is supposed to be released in a RWD-only Type R variant at some point but who knows if that will be Japan-only or worldwide.

Oh, and while the wild Civic Type R might be okay with front-wheel drive under the Honda badge they need to stop selling all but their very cheapest entry level Acura model in FWD trim. Because it was the 1990's I forgive the Legend for this since it was otherwise such a great car for the time. Today in 2017, however, I don't see why FWD in a luxury car that isn't a pocket rocket Mini Cooper making any sense. It just makes me thing I'm driving a cheap car with a lot of leather and gizmos added.

If I were to buy a classic Citroen DS, Citroen SM or a 70's Cadillac or Olds Toronado I'd be fine with FWD in a luxury car, since those are all mostly for cruising.

Acura might even do well to design a flexible wheelbase RWD architecture for at least the RLX and TLX. That would definitely turn some heads if they did it right. But even if the current RLX and TLX are SH-AWD equipped there is still something missing from them overall. Something visually stunning and something engaging in how they drive.

The ILX... just doesn't do much of anything for me. An IS200t or even an older IS250 is hands down more appealing even if I can't get a manual transmission in either of them.

evident

it hadnt been updated since 2005 and kept it for 10 years with pretty much no updates, and when it was updated, they put the terrible beak grill on it to make it look bad.

UDel

It is still a great engine though, way better then a turbo 4 cylinder. I would take the J series over the new turbo 4's replacing 6 cylinders any day. They do need a new 6 cylinder with some significant power upgrades but the J series is still very competitive and superior to most NA 6 cylinders and even some turbo 6 cylinders these days.