Lexus LS500/LS500h
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Toronto is a pretty affluent place Mike.
Im sure if you pulled the sales stats you would find that they sell a larger proportion of the hybrids that have a smaller price gap than they do the ones with a huge gap, which was my point.
Im sure if you pulled the sales stats you would find that they sell a larger proportion of the hybrids that have a smaller price gap than they do the ones with a huge gap, which was my point.
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You should ideally refer to Toronto as the Greater Toronto Area and not just Toronto, it captures the bigger picture and the context of the area much better.
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ESh, CTh, and NXh have detuned gas engines compared to what you can find in the Toyota line up. I believe VVT is removed or the dual part or something along those lines.
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As you well know, the GTA is very rlarge with a population of 6.4 million. That's a lot of people, and a lot of them with money to spend on pricey vehicles.
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Also I will add, within Toronto (Forrest Hill), and a few other along areas along with Oakville GTA they have some of the highest average incomes in Canada. I think Oakville is the highest in Canada at $165K for household which is 60K higher than average of the province of Ontario. Just going off stats I seen in work place proposals and documents.
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Also I will add, within Toronto (Forrest Hill), and a few other along areas along with Oakville GTA they have some of the highest average incomes in Canada. I think Oakville is the highest in Canada at $165K for household which is 60K higher than average of the province of Ontario. Just going off stats I seen in work place proposals and documents.
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OK....fair enough. Instead of several pages, I'll give it to you in one post, then. Here's the Master (Alex Dykes) and his take on the LS500 and 500h:
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Almost everything sells in the D.C. area, Steve, because of its size, affluence, and the sheer amount of money available in this region for new vehicles. Jill may have a point, though, about the market in Toronto, where she lives...reasonably good, but certainly not like D.C.
The RX Hybrid costs a good chunk of cash...probably not many in her area can afford one.
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And, to really emphasize a contrast, just drive 100 to 150 miles west of here, into Appalachia, and see what a lot of people are running around in for daily-drivers.
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downtown toronto has an area that's as vibrant as times square. toronto suburbs are wealthy with very expensive real estate. hard to buy much of anything to live in the toronto city area under $1 million CDN.
anyway, back to the ls500/ls500h... i'm still thinking there's not enough wow factor for it to make much of a dent on the market when it EVENTUALLY ships.
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you really should do some research instead of just assuming the superiority of the auto market you happen to live in. toronto and dc metro areas each have about 6 million people, and both have a tremendous amount of wealth. one big difference though is dc is wealthy because of lobbying money and the giant federal vacuum cleaner sucking money from everywhere else.
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that is beyond ridiculous.
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anyway, back to the ls500/ls500h... i'm still thinking there's not enough wow factor for it to make much of a dent on the market when it EVENTUALLY ships.
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I am coming to that conclusion as well. I don't think it is going to do all that well. There is something missing.
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