Traded our Kia Sedona in on a Chrysler Pacifica today...
#31
chrysler is constantly screwing me over lol, people believe we can discount a sienna as much as a pacifica or a highlander as much as a grand cherokee because chrysler gives a higher msrp and then discounts it more, even though there's genuinely only about a 3-7% markup in a toyota, depending on the model. there's a reason why literally every single chrysler product is at the bottom of basically every build quality, reliability, dependability survey lol... everyone who's had a dodge ram and then drives a tundra is like wow it just feels much higher quality, but the ram is so much cheaper
#32
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...reliable-cars/
and while vehicles like the tundra and sienna and tacoma may be very reliable, they're archaic and missing many modern features.
#33
but to keep it 'fair' this article says fiat-chrysler-dodge-jeep-etc ranked bottom in 10 CR categories in 2016... (i don't know how these two links can be reconciled, but i gave up trying to make sense of CR a long time ago).
https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobil...tml/?a=viewall
https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobil...tml/?a=viewall
#34
Car and Driver seems to be progressing through their Pacific long term test without issue.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-update-review
WHAT WE LIKE: While the latest Chrysler Pacifica minivan is practical, functional, and fuel efficient—and even resists stereotypes by being dynamically sound and aesthetically pleasing—the topic of most interest among potential buyers seems to be reliability. Swiftly reaching the halfway point of our 40,000-mile test, our Pacifica is perpetually active, in demand for trips near and far, and skillful at hauling cargo both sentient and otherwise. It’s also adept at switching between those transporting extremes with its fold-into-the-floor seats. Thus far, it’s been completely reliable, too, pausing only for routine service at 10,000 and 20,000 miles. The only issues, which we’ve already mentioned in previous updates, have been inconsequential: A plastic clip broke the first time we removed the panel that conceals the spare tire, and sometimes during a remote start the climate-control temperature setting annoyingly defaults to its coldest setting, which certainly works against attempts to prewarm the cabin.
WHAT WE DON’T LIKE: Although the adaptive cruise control works as well as any, and it’s easy to switch back to standard cruise control when desired, the Pacifica often surges forward with far too much power when a gap in traffic opens, then quickly ramps the power back down when it realizes it wasn’t needed to reach the set speed. We’ve also had reports of front-seat passengers mistakenly grabbing for the rotary shift **** when intending to adjust the radio volume, and we don’t like that the navigation system won’t display both the remaining distance and arrival time concurrently. Or that the Wi-Fi password can’t be viewed while the vehicle is moving.
WHAT WENT WRONG: Nada. We stopped for that 20,000-mile regular service just ahead of an adventurous staffer’s departure for two weeks of close-proximity family bonding on a trip to Wyoming and Idaho. This service included the replacement of the cabin air filter in addition to an oil-and-filter change, a tire rotation, and various inspections, which is why it cost more ($167) than our first stop ($86).
WHAT WE DON’T LIKE: Although the adaptive cruise control works as well as any, and it’s easy to switch back to standard cruise control when desired, the Pacifica often surges forward with far too much power when a gap in traffic opens, then quickly ramps the power back down when it realizes it wasn’t needed to reach the set speed. We’ve also had reports of front-seat passengers mistakenly grabbing for the rotary shift **** when intending to adjust the radio volume, and we don’t like that the navigation system won’t display both the remaining distance and arrival time concurrently. Or that the Wi-Fi password can’t be viewed while the vehicle is moving.
WHAT WENT WRONG: Nada. We stopped for that 20,000-mile regular service just ahead of an adventurous staffer’s departure for two weeks of close-proximity family bonding on a trip to Wyoming and Idaho. This service included the replacement of the cabin air filter in addition to an oil-and-filter change, a tire rotation, and various inspections, which is why it cost more ($167) than our first stop ($86).
#35
Minivans have great utility. Let's say you have to go out to JFK airport at 2:30 AM to pick-up inlaws who were flight delayed by 4 hours and have just flown back from Vancouver, which would they appreciate you showing up in, a minivan, or one of them fancy Range Rover autobiography's with 67 cu. ft. of cargo? I get that minivans have a stigma, but there is as many here have mentioned, a reason why they're so popular.
If you're single, are you going to meet smokeshows cruising around in one? Doubtful. As a father with kids, is it going to present great utility? Absolutely. There are different tools for every job, having the right one makes life more pleasant.
Wow you made the move! We still have 10 months left on our Kia so I’m still in research stage on my wife's Next ride. Surprised you leased the Kia 6 months before me, since I thought it was more like 3 months lol. Wonder how much I would lose if I do it now, with 10 months lease left... Well, my wife just hit a drive-through pole and dented the driver side quarter panel. So we have to fix that first which I don’t have time :/
I still trying to convince my wife about the Odyssey since I think van is just so much more useful, but she had her heart dead set on a full size SUV.
I still trying to convince my wife about the Odyssey since I think van is just so much more useful, but she had her heart dead set on a full size SUV.
Btw, I don’t understand why lot of people just assume a Chrysler product is horrible in liability. And especially for us people that lease, we don’t really care about long term liability since anything it’s covered during the 3 years of time. So unless you get a lemon, there isn’t anything to worry about lol. Feature rich and nice drive is all that matters
We shall see, fingers crossed!
This really did happen Sunday AM @ 2:30 AM! What I was driving at was the luggage would easily fit in one vehicle, and likely be a struggle in the prestige vehicle (those Range Rovers have less usable cargo than a CR-V, but they sure look dang good!). So the former is gonna be able to get in and out fast.
chrysler is constantly screwing me over lol, people believe we can discount a sienna as much as a pacifica or a highlander as much as a grand cherokee because chrysler gives a higher msrp and then discounts it more, even though there's genuinely only about a 3-7% markup in a toyota, depending on the model. there's a reason why literally every single chrysler product is at the bottom of basically every build quality, reliability, dependability survey lol... everyone who's had a dodge ram and then drives a tundra is like wow it just feels much higher quality, but the ram is so much cheaper
Reliability theres no question overall, but IMHO Toyota just doesn't make many truly compelling products right now.
I also disagree about the trucks, IMHO the Tundra is blown away completely by all American trucks, the Ram, F150 and Silverado.
#42
Exterior wise I find the Sienna the best looking, followed by the Sedona, Pacifica, then Odyssey.
Interior wise I would rate them Pacifica, Odyssey, Sedona, Sienna. When we looked at them we were seriously disappointed in the Sienna's interior.
On a minivan, I would find the interior to be much more important than the exterior.
Interior wise I would rate them Pacifica, Odyssey, Sedona, Sienna. When we looked at them we were seriously disappointed in the Sienna's interior.
On a minivan, I would find the interior to be much more important than the exterior.
#43
By regular sedan and coupe standards, what minivan really IS attractive-looking? Though the Pacific, yes, is sleek and un-boxy by minivan standards (and I stand by my earlier comment that there ought not to be any stigma attached to minivans) let's be realistic. Minivans are built for families, and utility.....not show-stopping looks.
Having said that, though, it appears that much of the Pacifica's front-end styling came from the now-discontinued Chrysler 200 sedan....nothing wrong with that in my book, as I personally liked the 200, especially with the V6.
Last edited by mmarshall; 11-13-17 at 02:54 PM.
#44
but to keep it 'fair' this article says fiat-chrysler-dodge-jeep-etc ranked bottom in 10 CR categories in 2016... (i don't know how these two links can be reconciled, but i gave up trying to make sense of CR a long time ago).
https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobil...tml/?a=viewall
https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobil...tml/?a=viewall
#45