Here we go again!

 

I like the Camry. Outside and in. But I have and sat in the Accord. Would much rather spend the money on the Honda.

 

I'm not allowed express my opinion on the dash? Excuse me. To my knowledge, this is the first time I have commented on that specific issue in public.....and this IS a Camry thread.

 

Overkill -- you are trying to kill (again) a long-dead horse. Enough with the "typical-Toyota-ugly".

Enough said.

 

Vehicle styling is subjective. Every brand has some hits and misses. Camry and Accord sell very well. I like the sport Camry but not the standard version.

 

The OP asked for opinions....he's getting them. And I'm certainly not the first to comment on the Camry grilles.

 

Where do you draw the line on what you like on them and whet you don't?

 

The front looks good on one, not the other.

 

 

I read a recent review where the new Honda Accord with a 4cyl turbo and only I think 258hp was quicker then the 300hp V6 Camry. How is that possible?

 

Torque which is what gets you off the line: Accord 273 lb-ft at 1,500 rpm (immediately available), Camry V6 267 lb-ft at 4,700 rpm
Transmissions and Gearing: Accord 2.0T 10 Speed Auto, Camry V6 8 speed auto
Weight: Accord 2.0T Touring 3,428 pounds Camry XSE V6 3,480 pounds

 

it's a very nice driving car but this new camry in general i feel doesn't have very comfortable seats (too firm) and i don't like how it's lower and wider than older camrys. myself and basically every other salesman here agrees that it's very annoying that it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to order a camry with navigation unless you get the V6 and even then it's still an option. the new camry will be the only car in the segment to still have a V6 as an option though so i like that, and i love how the XLE/XSE camrys have full speed radar cruise control, and not just regular DRCC that cancels once you go below 25

i know integrated navigation is sort of being replaced by just using your phone but people very frequently still want JUST NAVIGATION in terms of additional options and they can't get it. the scout connected app is also irritating and won't work if there's no cell service

 

The Accord was just as quick in the quarter mile too. The Accord only has 252hp, Camry has about 50hp on it from a similar weight, same layout. Either the Accord turbo is very impressive and under rated or the Camry 6 cylinder is rather unimpressive and poorly geared for performance. I was happy the Camry kept the 6 cylinder, thought it would at least be quicker then the 4cyl Accord down 50hp.

 

A V6 usually will have a smoother, more linear feel than a small turbo especially at lower RPM's. The new turbos are much improved though. BMW and Audi 2.0t's are among the best IMO.

 

The Accord very like has better drive train loss compared to the Camry. The V6