If you want a luxury or full-size American-badge sedan, consider one now.
12-06-17, 08:13 PM
#46
Lexus Champion
From an American Badged POV, the Dodge/.Chrysler Hemi cars and the Caddy CT-6 are all that are really left from the Big 3.. Some might say the Lincoln MK whatever and the Taurus, but they are more like large mid size then actual full size (IMO).
on a side note, the wonderful State of California is entertaining a bill to outlaw all ICE vehicles for sale or registration by 2040. guess I'll be moving, while I'm not opposed to an electric vehicle as a daily driver, I won't be giving up my motorcycle or hot rod because of some idiot lawmakers in CA.
12-06-17, 08:17 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
We are discussing Full Size Sedans, The OP started the conversation about American badged full size.. someone said something about the Avalon being the last true full sized car sold in North America, so if you are tossing in a Toyota, it's only fair to toss in the Germans as well, the S-Class is sold in North America, as is the 7 series, and the A8 etc.
From an American Badged POV, the Dodge/.Chrysler Hemi cars and the Caddy CT-6 are all that are really left from the Big 3.. Some might say the Lincoln MK whatever and the Taurus, but they are more like large mid size then actual full size (IMO).
on a side note, the wonderful State of California is entertaining a bill to outlaw all ICE vehicles for sale or registration by 2040. guess I'll be moving, while I'm not opposed to an electric vehicle as a daily driver, I won't be giving up my motorcycle or hot rod because of some idiot lawmakers in CA.
From an American Badged POV, the Dodge/.Chrysler Hemi cars and the Caddy CT-6 are all that are really left from the Big 3.. Some might say the Lincoln MK whatever and the Taurus, but they are more like large mid size then actual full size (IMO).
on a side note, the wonderful State of California is entertaining a bill to outlaw all ICE vehicles for sale or registration by 2040. guess I'll be moving, while I'm not opposed to an electric vehicle as a daily driver, I won't be giving up my motorcycle or hot rod because of some idiot lawmakers in CA.
12-06-17, 08:27 PM
#49
Lexus Fanatic
12-06-17, 09:44 PM
#50
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If you mean me Jill i never mind talking about the awesome s class but i guess i felt a 6 figure car wasn't mainstream but it's all good. 
12-06-17, 10:37 PM
#51
Why are we talking about the last gen(2012) Impala???? That car had a really tight rear seat, knees brushed the rear seat back, something the current Impala eliminated, its a lot nicer in the rear seat on the new model. 2017 Impala has 18.8 cubic feet of trunk space, 105 cubic feet in the cabin.
12-07-17, 06:09 AM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
I'd like to know what happened to all the Chevy Caprices that used to be deployed as taxis and police cars. I don't know the exact year but they were gone before my 1998 Nissan, seemingly overnight. If GM exited the market more than 20 yrs. ago, and handed it to Ford, it would be quite surprising that they were that wrong, and that they should be building full sized sedans today....give me a 1994 Roadmaster LT1, for a fair price, and I'll drive it as soon as my divorce goes through as a result of that purchase. I may like it, but I would be 1/1000 imho...and even in this very thread, seems like many embrace the idea of FWD (not sure why)
12-07-17, 07:10 AM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
They are not totally insulated from the SUV craze, but, no, they have not reached the level of sluggishness (compared to past sales) that we are seeing with Ford and GM.
12-07-17, 10:47 AM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
My American Pacifica is really nice, as were my American Jeep Grand Cherokees. I think the stigma is largely outdated nowadays.
12-07-17, 12:31 PM
#57
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Yes, the evidence, at least since the GM/Chrysler buyout, pretty much supports that. Even if FCA products are still at or near the bottom of the bar of today's reliability ratings, the bar itself has been moved upwards considerably from those days. And, to top it off, today, most of the complaints are not about actual mechanical breakdowns, but stuff like how difficult video screens and E-shifters are to operate.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-07-17 at 03:24 PM.
12-07-17, 12:36 PM
#58
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
With today's parts-contents laws, there is no such thing as a truly American, European, Japanese, Chinese, or Korean vehicle any more. That's why the country-of-origin of major components (engine, transmission, etc..) is required on today's price-stickers.
When one speaks of a vehicle's nationality nowadays, it is simply the nameplate and little else.
When one speaks of a vehicle's nationality nowadays, it is simply the nameplate and little else.
12-07-17, 01:09 PM
#59
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iTrader: (20)
^^ exactly. 
far too simplistic to say 'american' or any other nationality.
is an accord made in ohio 'american'? it probably has more american content than most gm vehicles.
far too simplistic to say 'american' or any other nationality.is an accord made in ohio 'american'? it probably has more american content than most gm vehicles.
