2018 Kia Stinger
01-21-18, 10:42 AM
#256
Lexus Fanatic
It is nice to hear you are able to say that. It is a well know thing that people will pay for the badge.
01-21-18, 11:56 AM
#257
Lexus Fanatic
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i do frequently and check out the A/B/C rankings on the various aspects of the review (ride, handling, seating, etc.). and if you don't care about the comparisons, skip that 5 minutes, etc. no biggie.instead of the critics, i'd say we're so lucky to have in depth free video reviews of vehicles, it's awesome.
Would be interested to know if he is doing reviews with other legit publications or these are just test drives of a dealer car.
yup, vanity and snob appeal are real.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 01-21-18 at 12:00 PM.
01-21-18, 12:02 PM
#258
of course... If Stinger diesel AT AWD drops in price like in should in germany, I might buy one in 2-3 years, maybe.
01-21-18, 01:02 PM
#259
Lexus Fanatic
easy to be a critic there Bo. and i've seen alex FREQUENTLY add title over corrections on the videos themselves and in comments.
well since they're on youtube you can just fast forward of course. i do frequently and check out the A/B/C rankings on the various aspects of the review (ride, handling, seating, etc.). and if you don't care about the comparisons, skip that 5 minutes, etc. no biggie.
instead of the critics, i'd say we're so lucky to have in depth free video reviews of vehicles, it's awesome.
what does that mean doing reviews 'with other legit publications'? i'm sure he's done whatever it takes, dealers, manufacturers, press events for reviewers, etc. i know for one chunk of reviews it showed it was in conjunction with some other group. not even sure what "legit" means these days.
yup, vanity and snob appeal are real.
well since they're on youtube you can just fast forward of course.
i do frequently and check out the A/B/C rankings on the various aspects of the review (ride, handling, seating, etc.). and if you don't care about the comparisons, skip that 5 minutes, etc. no biggie.instead of the critics, i'd say we're so lucky to have in depth free video reviews of vehicles, it's awesome.
what does that mean doing reviews 'with other legit publications'? i'm sure he's done whatever it takes, dealers, manufacturers, press events for reviewers, etc. i know for one chunk of reviews it showed it was in conjunction with some other group. not even sure what "legit" means these days.
yup, vanity and snob appeal are real.
When I say legit publications it has to do with ethics and credibility. For example, for myself, a review that is published on street date when an embargo lifts is subjective to less outside influence from other sources. The critique IMO gains extra weight as they are all being released simultaneously. If so and so comes along and publishes 30 or 60 days later, the review can very easily be influenced by what has been written and published previously. I also give extra weight to printed publishing vs just the Internet. My comments for this are based on all reviews such as movies, food, cars, or whatever.Consumer Reports is the biggest fraud IMO. Their reviews are custom tailored to their audience once all the legitimate publications have published months earlier
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-21-18 at 01:07 PM.
01-21-18, 01:36 PM
#260
Lexus Champion
I've read and seen a lot of Stinger reviews and no matter ones preference for the sources, they seem to be nearly unanimously positive. My guess is that it will sell very well in its segment. Even the reviled CR gives it thumbs up in the review I looked at.
01-21-18, 01:43 PM
#261
Lexus Fanatic
I've read and seen a lot of Stinger reviews and no matter ones preference for the sources, they seem to be nearly unanimously positive. My guess is that it will sell very well in its segment. Even the reviled CR gives it thumbs up in the review I looked at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z23ztuujxfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z23ztuujxfA
Not sure if you are directing to me. I don’t think I have ever said the Stinger is a poorly done car on any way. I just don’t think the KIA brand can sell a car of this caliber to people. Most people will pay more for a real luxury brand.
01-21-18, 01:53 PM
#262
Lexus Champion
Nope. Just getting back to talking about the car.
01-21-18, 02:28 PM
#263
Lexus Fanatic
The average new car used to have some 10,000 parts....might be closer to 20,000 with all of the added and mandated equipment today. There is no way you can do a really thorough review in just a couple of minutes. Yes, you can summarize.....but, to an extent, at least, the more you summarize, the more you compromise. I agree Alex is long-winded, but, unlike some of his colleagues, he at least takes his job seriously.
01-22-18, 05:15 PM
#264
easy to be a critic there Bo. and i've seen alex FREQUENTLY add title over corrections on the videos themselves and in comments.
well since they're on youtube you can just fast forward of course. i do frequently and check out the A/B/C rankings on the various aspects of the review (ride, handling, seating, etc.). and if you don't care about the comparisons, skip that 5 minutes, etc. no biggie.
instead of the critics, i'd say we're so lucky to have in depth free video reviews of vehicles, it's awesome.
what does that mean doing reviews 'with other legit publications'? i'm sure he's done whatever it takes, dealers, manufacturers, press events for reviewers, etc. i know for one chunk of reviews it showed it was in conjunction with some other group. not even sure what "legit" means these days.
yup, vanity and snob appeal are real.
well since they're on youtube you can just fast forward of course.
i do frequently and check out the A/B/C rankings on the various aspects of the review (ride, handling, seating, etc.). and if you don't care about the comparisons, skip that 5 minutes, etc. no biggie.instead of the critics, i'd say we're so lucky to have in depth free video reviews of vehicles, it's awesome.
what does that mean doing reviews 'with other legit publications'? i'm sure he's done whatever it takes, dealers, manufacturers, press events for reviewers, etc. i know for one chunk of reviews it showed it was in conjunction with some other group. not even sure what "legit" means these days.
yup, vanity and snob appeal are real.
Plus there are at least 4-5 good ones, and watching all of them for particular vehicle will likely give you really good set of information that you need to know before getting into the showroom.
01-22-18, 06:08 PM
#265
Lexus Champion
Lol. There is so much amateurish camera/editing work meant to be consumed as cheap hamburger as a way of driving clicks, that you just shake your head with this stuff. The Stinger is a wonderful new vehicle, but when you watch reviews, you'll wonder: is this about some Youtube guy waving his arms and getting his gigantic hands/thumb into the shot with crude editing and sunglass-wearing "host"? Rule no. 1 - you don't wear sunglasses when the cam is on you if you want to connect with your audience.
The reason the so-called "bad guys" ie. CR are being yelled at is that they have pros working on their video/editing. It's the same with the other big outfits. This is less about Kia vs the new digital economy of upstart amateurs getting hold of vehicles and just doing pov and hand cam shots. Very poor production and editing. They cover it up with details and strange fingers and thumbs sticking into shots like your fat pale stuff needs to be in the picture. Bad.
The reason the so-called "bad guys" ie. CR are being yelled at is that they have pros working on their video/editing. It's the same with the other big outfits. This is less about Kia vs the new digital economy of upstart amateurs getting hold of vehicles and just doing pov and hand cam shots. Very poor production and editing. They cover it up with details and strange fingers and thumbs sticking into shots like your fat pale stuff needs to be in the picture. Bad.
01-22-18, 06:26 PM
#266
Lol. There is so much amateurish camera/editing work meant to be consumed as cheap hamburger as a way of driving clicks, that you just shake your head with this stuff. The Stinger is a wonderful new vehicle, but when you watch reviews, you'll wonder: is this about some Youtube guy waving his arms and getting his gigantic hands/thumb into the shot with crude editing and sunglass-wearing "host"? Rule no. 1 - you don't wear sunglasses when the cam is on you if you want to connect with your audience.
The reason the so-called "bad guys" ie. CR are being yelled at is that they have pros working on their video/editing. It's the same with the other big outfits. This is less about Kia vs the new digital economy of upstart amateurs getting hold of vehicles and just doing pov and hand cam shots. Very poor production and editing. They cover it up with details and strange fingers and thumbs sticking into shots like your fat pale stuff needs to be in the picture. Bad.
The reason the so-called "bad guys" ie. CR are being yelled at is that they have pros working on their video/editing. It's the same with the other big outfits. This is less about Kia vs the new digital economy of upstart amateurs getting hold of vehicles and just doing pov and hand cam shots. Very poor production and editing. They cover it up with details and strange fingers and thumbs sticking into shots like your fat pale stuff needs to be in the picture. Bad.
01-22-18, 06:34 PM
#267
Lexus Champion
Alex needs an on cam host, and a video editor/producer. Unfortunately, he does not do well with on cam telegenic stuff. That's my point.
01-22-18, 06:36 PM
#268
Lexus Fanatic
In the television world and for that matter, the youtube online video world - Alex on Autos is a producer and scriptwriter. He just happens to be a producer/writer/host because, as I said, the online world is about leveraging clicks at the lowest possible cost. Doesn't mean it's the best product out there.
Alex needs an on cam host, and a video editor/producer. Unfortunately, he does not do well with on cam telegenic stuff. That's my point.
Alex needs an on cam host, and a video editor/producer. Unfortunately, he does not do well with on cam telegenic stuff. That's my point.
In a word, Alex reviews. He doesn't go in front of the camera to make a show of himself.
01-22-18, 06:39 PM
#269
The pursuit of F
I've read and seen a lot of Stinger reviews and no matter ones preference for the sources, they seem to be nearly unanimously positive. My guess is that it will sell very well in its segment. Even the reviled CR gives it thumbs up in the review I looked at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z23ztuujxfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z23ztuujxfA