get gsf or wait for next gs?
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get gsf or wait for next gs?
Hey Guys, let me get your thoughts here, I'm a big GS type of guy, had an 08, 13, currently a 15, and plan on getting a GSF or new body GS in a year or two if they still exist. I go back and forth, I like my current Fsport now, as it allows me to drive sporty when I want to but also drive in snow since I live in the Northeast. I really really want to get into the GSF soon, I love the idea of 469hp and the overall style, but on the flip side, I would need to get a winter beater or truck or really good snow tires for the car.
Then I also thought about, if the next generation GS comes out in a year or two, it should have the turbo engine, guessing a tuned down version in the LS500, would some of you actually wait to see and get this car, supposedly more coupe like (I read like CLS) and spend a couple thousand on tuning that engine to maybe get another 60-70hp out of it? It would be nice to have a luxury GS with more power under the hood vs a track car that you really can't drive in winter without a good proper setup. I guess I want the best of both worlds.
I go back and forth - just looking for some opinions if it were you and you were looking at GS's.
Then I also thought about, if the next generation GS comes out in a year or two, it should have the turbo engine, guessing a tuned down version in the LS500, would some of you actually wait to see and get this car, supposedly more coupe like (I read like CLS) and spend a couple thousand on tuning that engine to maybe get another 60-70hp out of it? It would be nice to have a luxury GS with more power under the hood vs a track car that you really can't drive in winter without a good proper setup. I guess I want the best of both worlds.
I go back and forth - just looking for some opinions if it were you and you were looking at GS's.
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As far as "tuning" it, I notice you live in NJ. From what I understand, that state, like CA, has some pretty strict emissions tests. It might not pass if you fiddle too much with what the engineers have programmed.
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I'm in a similar position myself. I have a local dealer trying to sell a GS-F to me and it's quite tempting with the current offers and the way it drives/sounds but given the styling direction and driving dynamics Lexus has gone with the LC/LS 500's, it makes me want to wait to see what they have in store with the new GS.
The LS500's factory powertrain paper specs nearly match the GS-F's 0-60 time (yes, I'm aware that some journalists have not been able to match the LS500 0-60 times in real world tests so take that with a grain of salt). Given that, you're still getting more usable torque at a much lower rpm. If they use a slightly detuned version of the LS500 TTV6, and with less weight, I have no reason to believe the new GS TTV6 won't be as quick or near as quick as the current GS-F from 0-60 and that's plenty of power for me for a non-F car. This is all my own personal speculation and wishful thinking but given the direction Lexus is going I don't think it's unfathomable.
The LS500's factory powertrain paper specs nearly match the GS-F's 0-60 time (yes, I'm aware that some journalists have not been able to match the LS500 0-60 times in real world tests so take that with a grain of salt). Given that, you're still getting more usable torque at a much lower rpm. If they use a slightly detuned version of the LS500 TTV6, and with less weight, I have no reason to believe the new GS TTV6 won't be as quick or near as quick as the current GS-F from 0-60 and that's plenty of power for me for a non-F car. This is all my own personal speculation and wishful thinking but given the direction Lexus is going I don't think it's unfathomable.
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I'm in a similar position myself. I have a local dealer trying to sell a GS-F to me and it's quite tempting with the current offers and the way it drives/sounds but given the styling direction and driving dynamics Lexus has gone with the LC/LS 500's, it makes me want to wait to see what they have in store with the new GS.
The LS500's factory powertrain paper specs nearly match the GS-F's 0-60 time (yes, I'm aware that some journalists have not been able to match the LS500 0-60 times in real world tests so take that with a grain of salt). Given that, you're still getting more usable torque at a much lower rpm. If they use a slightly detuned version of the LS500 TTV6, and with less weight, I have no reason to believe the new GS TTV6 won't be as quick or near as quick as the current GS-F from 0-60 and that's plenty of power for me for a non-F car. This is all my own personal speculation and wishful thinking but given the direction Lexus is going I don't think it's unfathomable.
The LS500's factory powertrain paper specs nearly match the GS-F's 0-60 time (yes, I'm aware that some journalists have not been able to match the LS500 0-60 times in real world tests so take that with a grain of salt). Given that, you're still getting more usable torque at a much lower rpm. If they use a slightly detuned version of the LS500 TTV6, and with less weight, I have no reason to believe the new GS TTV6 won't be as quick or near as quick as the current GS-F from 0-60 and that's plenty of power for me for a non-F car. This is all my own personal speculation and wishful thinking but given the direction Lexus is going I don't think it's unfathomable.
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I think if you can get a great deal on GSF and want to stay with Lexus then get it.
Just put on snow tires and you should be fine.
New GS is at least 2 years away (probably early 2020).
I think the main engine will be a 4cyl turbo and the V6tt will be optional and cost way more.
Tuning Lexus engines is almost impossible due to ECU.
Stinger is a good optiion or the Germans if you want fun AWD sedans.
Just put on snow tires and you should be fine.
New GS is at least 2 years away (probably early 2020).
I think the main engine will be a 4cyl turbo and the V6tt will be optional and cost way more.
Tuning Lexus engines is almost impossible due to ECU.
Stinger is a good optiion or the Germans if you want fun AWD sedans.
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I think if you can get a great deal on GSF and want to stay with Lexus then get it.
Just put on snow tires and you should be fine.
New GS is at least 2 years away (probably early 2020).
I think the main engine will be a 4cyl turbo and the V6tt will be optional and cost way more.
Tuning Lexus engines is almost impossible due to ECU.
Stinger is a good optiion or the Germans if you want fun AWD sefans.
Just put on snow tires and you should be fine.
New GS is at least 2 years away (probably early 2020).
I think the main engine will be a 4cyl turbo and the V6tt will be optional and cost way more.
Tuning Lexus engines is almost impossible due to ECU.
Stinger is a good optiion or the Germans if you want fun AWD sefans.
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I think if you can get a great deal on GSF and want to stay with Lexus then get it.
Just put on snow tires and you should be fine.
New GS is at least 2 years away (probably early 2020).
I think the main engine will be a 4cyl turbo and the V6tt will be optional and cost way more.
Tuning Lexus engines is almost impossible due to ECU.
Stinger is a good optiion or the Germans if you want fun AWD sedans.
Just put on snow tires and you should be fine.
New GS is at least 2 years away (probably early 2020).
I think the main engine will be a 4cyl turbo and the V6tt will be optional and cost way more.
Tuning Lexus engines is almost impossible due to ECU.
Stinger is a good optiion or the Germans if you want fun AWD sedans.
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Interesting so are the ECUs programmable now? This was never the case before.Even the new BMWs are much harder to tune.