New Peugeot 508 revealed
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Back to the 508, I agree the exterior is nicely-done, but the dash and console are awkward. Even though the primary/secondary gauges are all in one housing, on one level, the overall visual effect still, IMO, reminds one too much of the former split-level Honda Civic dashes.
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I was just refering to the different types of "P" buttons, to avoid confusion. There are three basic kinds, as what Tex and I posted.
Speaking of the sonar one (with the beepers), with the lousy rear visibility on today's vehicles (seeing the end of the trunk-lid is usually impossible) I don't know why anyone would want to turn that sonar back-up feature off in the first place.....unless they are just depending on the back-up camera.![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
Speaking of the sonar one (with the beepers), with the lousy rear visibility on today's vehicles (seeing the end of the trunk-lid is usually impossible) I don't know why anyone would want to turn that sonar back-up feature off in the first place.....unless they are just depending on the back-up camera.
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
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I was just refering to the different types of "P" buttons, to avoid confusion. There are three basic kinds, as what Tex and I posted.
Speaking of the sonar one (with the beepers), with the lousy rear visibility on today's vehicles (seeing the end of the trunk-lid is usually impossible) I don't know why anyone would want to turn that sonar back-up feature off in the first place.....unless they are just depending on the back-up camera.![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
Speaking of the sonar one (with the beepers), with the lousy rear visibility on today's vehicles (seeing the end of the trunk-lid is usually impossible) I don't know why anyone would want to turn that sonar back-up feature off in the first place.....unless they are just depending on the back-up camera.
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
These sonar systems also have a problem in snow. My front sensors tend to go off if I am driving in certain snow conditions, even light snow. They will also go off if the sensors become blocked by snow or dirt from driving on dirty winter roads.
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Yes, that's a point. I've had that happen to me a couple of times. Generally more the case with ice, though, than snow. Ice can screw up the little sonar-circles on the bumpers.
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I was just refering to the different types of "P" buttons, to avoid confusion. There are three basic kinds, as what Tex and I posted.
Speaking of the sonar one (with the beepers), with the lousy rear visibility on today's vehicles (seeing the end of the trunk-lid is usually impossible) I don't know why anyone would want to turn that sonar back-up feature off in the first place.....unless they are just depending on the back-up camera.![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
Speaking of the sonar one (with the beepers), with the lousy rear visibility on today's vehicles (seeing the end of the trunk-lid is usually impossible) I don't know why anyone would want to turn that sonar back-up feature off in the first place.....unless they are just depending on the back-up camera.
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
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Plus, you ID'd this additional style for parking sonar:
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Sounds like the active park assist is the answer I was looking for.
Thanks all.
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Good point on the "P" on the shift-lever for PARK. Unlike the others, though, on some vehicles (as on my Lacrosse) Park will engage automatically when you stop the car and turn off the engine. That's, of course, a safety feature to keep the car from rolling away in Neutral, which got a well-known actor killed by a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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Love it! Very French, especially the interior. Lived in France for a time and even with their quirks, there’s something I quite like about Peugeot.
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I haven't had a chance to check out more recent French designs (the last one sold in the U.S. was the Dodge Monaco/Eagle Premier, a rebadged French Renault 25)...though there may be some French influence in more recent Nissans.
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Yes. Newer Peugeots have the iCockpit, which have a smaller steering wheel and the instruments mounted higher so you look over the top of the wheel - kind of halfway between a traditional instrument cluster and a head up display. If you set your driving position correctly it works well but if not you can feel as if the wheel is obscuring them. Not everyone can get along with it.
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Two electric motors provide sporty AWD performance
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Sporty Peugeots have always been in the core of the French brand, even if they have often been about lightness more than outright power. But for the new, electrified Peugeot era, some large amounts of horsepower are in order. Take this 508-based, Geneva-bound hybrid concept for an example.
The attitude of Peugeot's recently-released 508 sedan is already quite sporty as it stands. The bucket seats are shapely, the steering wheel is seemingly off a go-kart, and the entire four-door sedan seems like it wants to be a low-slung sports coupe instead. But with some Peugeot Sport DNA and several motors, both gasoline and electric, there are chances that the 508 can reach the full potential the sharp design promises.
The 508 Peugeot Sport Engineered starts with a 508 bodyshell and a regular-issue, "PureTech" 200-horsepower 1.6-liter four-cylinder turbo engine, but with some hybrid goodies added. On the front axle, there's now a 110-horsepower electric motor, and for the rear axle, Peugeot Sport has added a 200-hp electric motor. Combined power in this all-wheel-drive concept is a neat figure of 400, which propels the car to 62 mph in 4.3 seconds. The top speed is limited to 155 mph, and there's nearly 370 lb-ft of torque.
Going on electric power alone, the 508 manages 31 miles with its 11.8 kWh battery pack fitted under the rear seats, and its CO2 output is a pleasingly low 49g per km in the WLTP cycle. Outside, the design hasn't been altered much: The car sits lower and wider, there are bespoke aero parts but no rear spoiler, new 20-inch wheels show off new brake parts, and contrasting details have been added in "Kryptonite" green. The interior appears largely stock, but with new half-leather, half-Alcantara trim and reshaped details in the ceiling, pillars and doors. The small steering wheel is also covered in Alcantara, and there are Kryptonite highlights everywhere.
Since the earlier full-electric e-Legend coupe concept is reportedly not going into production, we're also slightly suspicious of the 400-hp 508's production potential; however, the super-powerful concept has been created with real-world parts and real-world consumption figures. It would also serve the bold 508 sedan well to have a halo car like this in the range, even if it sold in limited numbers. And with Peugeot throwing slogans such as "Neo-Performance" and "Unboring the Future," we're getting the feeling that the company really wants to use this technology in a production car.
The attitude of Peugeot's recently-released 508 sedan is already quite sporty as it stands. The bucket seats are shapely, the steering wheel is seemingly off a go-kart, and the entire four-door sedan seems like it wants to be a low-slung sports coupe instead. But with some Peugeot Sport DNA and several motors, both gasoline and electric, there are chances that the 508 can reach the full potential the sharp design promises.
The 508 Peugeot Sport Engineered starts with a 508 bodyshell and a regular-issue, "PureTech" 200-horsepower 1.6-liter four-cylinder turbo engine, but with some hybrid goodies added. On the front axle, there's now a 110-horsepower electric motor, and for the rear axle, Peugeot Sport has added a 200-hp electric motor. Combined power in this all-wheel-drive concept is a neat figure of 400, which propels the car to 62 mph in 4.3 seconds. The top speed is limited to 155 mph, and there's nearly 370 lb-ft of torque.
Going on electric power alone, the 508 manages 31 miles with its 11.8 kWh battery pack fitted under the rear seats, and its CO2 output is a pleasingly low 49g per km in the WLTP cycle. Outside, the design hasn't been altered much: The car sits lower and wider, there are bespoke aero parts but no rear spoiler, new 20-inch wheels show off new brake parts, and contrasting details have been added in "Kryptonite" green. The interior appears largely stock, but with new half-leather, half-Alcantara trim and reshaped details in the ceiling, pillars and doors. The small steering wheel is also covered in Alcantara, and there are Kryptonite highlights everywhere.
Since the earlier full-electric e-Legend coupe concept is reportedly not going into production, we're also slightly suspicious of the 400-hp 508's production potential; however, the super-powerful concept has been created with real-world parts and real-world consumption figures. It would also serve the bold 508 sedan well to have a halo car like this in the range, even if it sold in limited numbers. And with Peugeot throwing slogans such as "Neo-Performance" and "Unboring the Future," we're getting the feeling that the company really wants to use this technology in a production car.
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Too bad it’s not available in the u.s.
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