Lincoln Aviator killed it.
#18
Lexus Champion
From C&D:
"Officially, the vehicle revealed at the New York auto show is a concept, but unlike the concepts that presaged the Continental and the Navigator, this Aviator concept is extremely close to production intent. All the sheetmetal, for example, is ready for high-volume production."
"Officially, the vehicle revealed at the New York auto show is a concept, but unlike the concepts that presaged the Continental and the Navigator, this Aviator concept is extremely close to production intent. All the sheetmetal, for example, is ready for high-volume production."
#20
Pole Position
This is a gimmick move to claim premium prices. RWD in SUV makes zero difference if it's AWD, especially if your AWD is run of the mill like it is in Ford's and Toyota's case.
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Go drive X5 and RX350 back to back - huge difference.
Jaguar Fpace, Alfa Stelvio, Porsche Macan, X3, X5, GLC, GLE etc are all RWD based.
FWD based crossovers cant compare to these in any way.
#23
Lexus Fanatic
#24
Lead Lap
Sold!!!!
This thing if price well enough decked out, will eat navigator sales and conquer a segment like the GLS and GX
This thing if price well enough decked out, will eat navigator sales and conquer a segment like the GLS and GX
#26
Lexus Champion
If you can move the current fwd Explorers for $35-40K, you can move a redesigned Aviator with proper CD6 architecture for $45-50K. The Navigator is the big boat that's going to run $75K and more. The Nautilus is just a fwd Edge/Escape vehicle. It serves its function and looks good, especially for people who don't care which way the engine points or where the drive axles are.
Ford is really smart in finally getting away from all that silly alphabet soup of naming conventions. You confuse prospective buyers trying to emulate the Germans, you lose. These names can be used as brand identity. Explorer and Escape have persevered in that way, and Lincoln has gone back to proper names for its vehicles.
This vehicle btw uses the architecture of the Mustang underneath, CD6. So it should not be a boat.
Ford is really smart in finally getting away from all that silly alphabet soup of naming conventions. You confuse prospective buyers trying to emulate the Germans, you lose. These names can be used as brand identity. Explorer and Escape have persevered in that way, and Lincoln has gone back to proper names for its vehicles.
This vehicle btw uses the architecture of the Mustang underneath, CD6. So it should not be a boat.
#27
But what does that have to do with Navigator? Does not look like it will be a sporty ride.
#30
Lexus Test Driver
Looks half-way decent. It's amazing when an SUV actually has a clear and open rear side window without any swoops, cuts, or blockages. Salute!
There are other hits and misses with the body and interior. First off, it mimics a Range Rover/Land Rover. Not a bad thing, but Ford has been after that look with the Explorer for quite some time. Also, this thing is completely missing a front bumper, giving it an underbite look. And one tap in front and you will be repairing everything from top to bottom. Also, why are we accepting the complete lack of a gear shifter? One of the most essential ways to gain quick and safe control over a vehicle (without looking down), and we don't have it. I have never driven a car without one, so perhaps I shouldn't speak. But if anything, one has no place to rest the right arm and hand on long drives while keeping some blood flow going.
I do see this selling very well. It has bling, prestige, luxury, and modern looks. Ventura Blvd. will be the perfect nest.
Now hungry for the Ford version. Explorer is one of the most important SUV's of all time and Ford is letting it linger too long like it does with the Fusion, Taurus, and Escape. Spend some money dammit! Massive F-150 sales for the last ten years should be paying for all these programs.
There are other hits and misses with the body and interior. First off, it mimics a Range Rover/Land Rover. Not a bad thing, but Ford has been after that look with the Explorer for quite some time. Also, this thing is completely missing a front bumper, giving it an underbite look. And one tap in front and you will be repairing everything from top to bottom. Also, why are we accepting the complete lack of a gear shifter? One of the most essential ways to gain quick and safe control over a vehicle (without looking down), and we don't have it. I have never driven a car without one, so perhaps I shouldn't speak. But if anything, one has no place to rest the right arm and hand on long drives while keeping some blood flow going.
I do see this selling very well. It has bling, prestige, luxury, and modern looks. Ventura Blvd. will be the perfect nest.
Now hungry for the Ford version. Explorer is one of the most important SUV's of all time and Ford is letting it linger too long like it does with the Fusion, Taurus, and Escape. Spend some money dammit! Massive F-150 sales for the last ten years should be paying for all these programs.
Last edited by Fizzboy7; 03-29-18 at 02:22 AM.