Lincoln Aviator killed it.
#32
Racer
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nah. gear selector switches are right under the a/c vents in their own row.
It's a space saver,
unlike Acura's ginormous wtf-isthat-thing gear selector shroud bath tub...
There's just no room up top for storage, except a biscuit sized arm rest box...
Also better than the Continentals big vertical gear buttons.
It's a space saver,
unlike Acura's ginormous wtf-isthat-thing gear selector shroud bath tub...
There's just no room up top for storage, except a biscuit sized arm rest box...
Also better than the Continentals big vertical gear buttons.
#33
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#36
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Might also be the case with the upcoming Cadillac XT4. Looks like it and the Aviator will be close competitors, though the Aviator may actually be between the XT4 and XT5 in size.
The big question, of course, once the Aviator debuts, is what will become of the Lincoln MKC and MKX? That's going to be an interesting question. I've always liked the concept and execution of the MKC (remember my PM?)....but its shoddy workmanship made me hesitant to get one or strongly recommend it to others.
#37
Might also be the case with the upcoming Cadillac XT4. Looks like it and the Aviator will be close competitors, though the Aviator may actually be between the XT4 and XT5 in size.
The big question, of course, once the Aviator debuts, is what will become of the Lincoln MKC and MKX? That's going to be an interesting question. I've always liked the concept and execution of the MKC (remember my PM?)....but its shoddy workmanship made me hesitant to get one or strongly recommend it to others.
The big question, of course, once the Aviator debuts, is what will become of the Lincoln MKC and MKX? That's going to be an interesting question. I've always liked the concept and execution of the MKC (remember my PM?)....but its shoddy workmanship made me hesitant to get one or strongly recommend it to others.
Im pretty sure Cadillac is planting the XT4 in the compact segment. Even though from the looks of what I’ve seen so far it looks like it’s falling in between the subcompact and compact luxury crossover SUV segment. Main competition would be Volvo XC40, BMW X1/X2, and Lexus UX and NX. Cadillac has a tendency to make their segment entries slightly larger than the competition but then price it slightly lower than the competition.
The Aviator will not compete with the Cadillac XT4 at all, but instead compete with Cadillac’s yet to be named largest crossover that will slot below the Escalade and debut in 18 months or less. Cadillac is getting killed in the 3 row luxury crossover segment because they have no vehicle representation in the segment.
In regards to the Lincoln Aviator, it seems this SUV will compete with the likes of the Volvo XC90, Audi Q7, Land Rover Discovery and possibly Lexus GX. I can see the Aviator nipping at the heels of the base level Mercedes GLS too. Lincoln has already stated it will slot above the MKC and Nautilus, but below the SWB Navigator.
I can easily see this Aviator becoming Lincoln best selling model after it debuts and possibly becoming a segment leader.
#38
Lexus Fanatic
Im pretty sure Cadillac is planting the XT4 in the compact segment. Even though from the looks of what I’ve seen so far it looks like it’s falling in between the subcompact and compact luxury crossover SUV segment. Main competition would be Volvo XC40, BMW X1/X2, and Lexus UX and NX. Cadillac has a tendency to make their segment entries slightly larger than the competition but then price it slightly lower than the competition.
The Aviator will not compete with the Cadillac XT4 at all, but instead compete with Cadillac’s yet to be named largest crossover that will slot below the Escalade and debut in 18 months or less. Cadillac is getting killed in the 3 row luxury crossover segment because they have no vehicle representation in the segment.
In regards to the Lincoln Aviator, it seems this SUV will compete with the likes of the Volvo XC90, Audi Q7, Land Rover Discovery and possibly Lexus GX. I can see the Aviator nipping at the heels of the base level Mercedes GLS too. Lincoln has already stated it will slot above the MKC and Nautilus, but below the SWB Navigator.
I can easily see this Aviator becoming Lincoln best selling model after it debuts and possibly becoming a segment leader.
OK...we'll see. I've got no reason to doubt what you say. The problem is that the compact and mid-sized SUV market is getting so many entries now that it's getting more and more difficult just to classify them all.
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i think the aviator is at least the size of the xt5.
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#41
I can see how you might think that, But after cusrisouly reading up on this XT4 it is a extension of the GM epsilon E2XX platform used for the XT5. The XT4 employs a 109 inch wheelbase and 181 inch overall length. The Buick Encore is much smaller and measures in at 168 inches long with a rather short 100 inch wheelbase. The Encore is subcompact crossover and is closely related to the Chevy Spark, Sonic, Trax.
Last edited by highrev6; 03-29-18 at 08:51 AM.
#42
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The XT4 is the luxury equivalent to the Chevrolet Equinox and GMC Terrain. Equinox is 183.1" in total length and the XT5 is 189.6". The Lincoln Nautilus is 186.5", so coming full circle and back to the topic, the Lincoln Aviator is Explorer based. The current Explorer is 197.1". So don't expect the Aviator to be any less than 190.0"
#43
Racer
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i remember reading the aviator will be about 200"
And this will probably be in the $50,000 class.
Gonna be highly competitive, and I predict Lincoln will have to give fat discounts to move units.
Ford Explorer won't look as slick, judging by the spy shots. It appears to retain the same styling cues as the current Exploder.
And this will probably be in the $50,000 class.
Gonna be highly competitive, and I predict Lincoln will have to give fat discounts to move units.
Ford Explorer won't look as slick, judging by the spy shots. It appears to retain the same styling cues as the current Exploder.
#45
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RX350 drives pedestrian cause it doesn't have a proper AWD system in it, just like how Ford doesn't have one either, just like how Jaguar doesn't have one, just like how Alfa doesn't have one.
Wanna take a bet that new Aviator will drive exactly the same as the previous midsize FWD Lincoln SUV but more refined of course due to development evolution? It's not going to be Range Rover Sport or X5M no matter how it looks.