where are all those vw diesels they bought back...
04-02-18, 07:55 AM
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where are all those vw diesels they bought back...
in storage places all over the u.s.!!!!!
As part of the settlement after it got caught cheating on its emissions tests, Volkswagen has bought back about 350,000 of its U.S. diesel vehicles. The automaker so far has spent more than $7.4 billion on the cars, according to court filings seen by Reuters.
Where does VW put all those cars? Wherever it can find the space.
more here: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...auto-boneyards
Where does VW put all those cars? Wherever it can find the space.
The German automaker has 37 remote storage facilities across the U.S., and they're not just parking lots. The sites include a former football stadium in the Detroit suburbs, an old paper mill in Minnesota and a giant patch of land in the California desert.
People who own or lease one of the affected vehicles can choose to sell their cars back to VW, terminate their lease or have their car modified for improved emissions. Owners and lessees have until Sept. 1 to submit a claim. ...more here: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...auto-boneyards
04-02-18, 03:30 PM
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Looks photoshopped (never trust a pic from the internet). Weird how the back parts of the lot become blurry, but the scenery does not.
In my opinion, this is a total waste of money, cars, and resources. There are scores of people too poor to afford a car. Get these near new cars to them and make the world a little better. Some of these are probably five or ten times cleaner than old clunkers used elsewhere or in other countries (Cuba, Mexico, So. Amer, et al).
In my opinion, this is a total waste of money, cars, and resources. There are scores of people too poor to afford a car. Get these near new cars to them and make the world a little better. Some of these are probably five or ten times cleaner than old clunkers used elsewhere or in other countries (Cuba, Mexico, So. Amer, et al).
04-02-18, 03:50 PM
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So they are worried about a little bit of fumes, but hey, lets have an enormous waste of land. The energy required to produce replacement half a million cars, and the emissions/byproducts that will be created, probably exceed whatever damage that the emissions from these already produced and very efficient vehicles could possibly do.
04-02-18, 03:52 PM
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So they are worried about a little bit of fumes, but hey, lets have an enormous waste of land. The energy required to produce replacement half a million cars, and the emissions/byproducts that will be created, probably exceed whatever damage that the emissions from these already produced and very efficient vehicles could possibly do.
I think Och has a point on this one.
04-02-18, 03:52 PM
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Not photoshopped the amount of detail fools the eye into thinking it is blurry. The scenery has less complex shapes so it look sharper. You make a good point these cars could go to areas where they have no emissions at all.
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04-02-18, 03:53 PM
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Looks photoshopped (never trust a pic from the internet). Weird how the back parts of the lot become blurry, but the scenery does not.
In my opinion, this is a total waste of money, cars, and resources. There are scores of people too poor to afford a car. Get these near new cars to them and make the world a little better. Some of these are probably five or ten times cleaner than old clunkers used elsewhere or in other countries (Cuba, Mexico, So. Amer, et al).
In my opinion, this is a total waste of money, cars, and resources. There are scores of people too poor to afford a car. Get these near new cars to them and make the world a little better. Some of these are probably five or ten times cleaner than old clunkers used elsewhere or in other countries (Cuba, Mexico, So. Amer, et al).
Sell them over there for cheap, let VW make some of their money back, and hell maybe VW gets a foothold in certain markets, in a few years those people might have enough scratch saved up to buy a new VW if their old one treated them well. People carp about VW being unreliable, but from word of mouth the diesel cars are pretty stout and are cheap to run up to 300k, 400k miles.
04-02-18, 04:03 PM
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My thoughts exactly, these have to be MUCH cleaner and MUCH safer than the 20+ year old junk they are driving around in places like Nigeria, Iraq, Cambodia, etc. And when I say safe, I don't mean more airbags, I mean that these cars don't have cracked subframes, tie rod ends welded back together, one working brake caliper, etc.
Sell them over there for cheap, let VW make some of their money back, and hell maybe VW gets a foothold in certain markets, in a few years those people might have enough scratch saved up to buy a new VW if their old one treated them well. People carp about VW being unreliable, but from word of mouth the diesel cars are pretty stout and are cheap to run up to 300k, 400k miles.
Sell them over there for cheap, let VW make some of their money back, and hell maybe VW gets a foothold in certain markets, in a few years those people might have enough scratch saved up to buy a new VW if their old one treated them well. People carp about VW being unreliable, but from word of mouth the diesel cars are pretty stout and are cheap to run up to 300k, 400k miles.
04-02-18, 04:15 PM
#10
Didn't think about that, I wonder how hard(ie expensive) the workaround for that problem is. If the injectors and high pressure fuel pump won't work on the crap diesel, then it probably isn't economical to run these cars in the 3rd world. If all you need to do is cut off the cat-converter and disable the emissions stuff, maybe reflash the computer, well that's pretty cheap and easy.
04-02-18, 04:18 PM
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Sell them over there for cheap, let VW make some of their money back, and hell maybe VW gets a foothold in certain markets, in a few years those people might have enough scratch saved up to buy a new VW if their old one treated them well. People carp about VW being unreliable, but from word of mouth the diesel cars are pretty stout and are cheap to run up to 300k, 400k miles.
04-02-18, 04:23 PM
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Didn't think about that, I wonder how hard(ie expensive) the workaround for that problem is. If the injectors and high pressure fuel pump won't work on the crap diesel, then it probably isn't economical to run these cars in the 3rd world. If all you need to do is cut off the cat-converter and disable the emissions stuff, maybe reflash the computer, well that's pretty cheap and easy.
04-02-18, 04:28 PM
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04-02-18, 04:49 PM
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It's not photoshoped it's a still taken from this video.
sad thing is they will dump all of these trash in some 3rd world country and continue to pollute anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=Cem7_F6sg9I
sad thing is they will dump all of these trash in some 3rd world country and continue to pollute anyways.
VW eventually intends to repair these vehicles and export them out of the U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=Cem7_F6sg9I
VW eventually intends to repair these vehicles and export them out of the U.S.
04-02-18, 05:22 PM
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