article on why Toyota/Lexus won't adopt Android auto
#1
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article on why Toyota/Lexus won't adopt Android auto
Toyota says Android auto has too many privacy concerns. I doubt Apple is any better but they adopted it. I say follow the money. There are many other auto companies using Android auto but I have't hard of any issues.
https://www.motor1.com/news/239477/t...vacy-concerns/
https://www.motor1.com/news/239477/t...vacy-concerns/
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Toyota says Android auto has too many privacy concerns. I doubt Apple is any better but they adopted it. I say follow the money. There are many other auto companies using Android auto but I have't hard of any issues.
https://www.motor1.com/news/239477/t...vacy-concerns/
https://www.motor1.com/news/239477/t...vacy-concerns/
According to the publication, Google collected “Stuff like vehicle speed, throttle position, coolant and oil temp, engine revs—basically Google wants a complete OBD2 dump whenever someone activates Android Auto…. Apple, by way of stark contrast, only wants to know if the car is moving while Apple Play is in use.”
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article on why Toyota/Lexus won't adopt Android auto
Apple CarPlay was just now adopted because Lexus has been in contract negotiations in regards to what info Apple collects. So once it's all said and done, Lexus will likely be the least intrusive of the automakers that have adopted the technology.
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If MotorTrend's article is true and to be believed, then as much as I too want Android Auto, I want to agree with Toyota and not give up soooo much of my data & privacy.
I believe we have not seen the true ramifications of all these invasions of privacy; Credit Bureaus that holds so much sensitive data that's hacked; Always On Location Services and giving up permissions to apps just to be able to use it.
Google don't need anything near an OBD2 dump to activate Android Auto.
Get this, while Google drags their feet about requiring soooo much of our privacy, Carplay would have solid traction in new automobile sales market. Also, Google should, "You want Toyota on that wall, You need Toyota on that wall" given how large Toyota is as a car manufacturer.
I believe we have not seen the true ramifications of all these invasions of privacy; Credit Bureaus that holds so much sensitive data that's hacked; Always On Location Services and giving up permissions to apps just to be able to use it.
Google don't need anything near an OBD2 dump to activate Android Auto.
Get this, while Google drags their feet about requiring soooo much of our privacy, Carplay would have solid traction in new automobile sales market. Also, Google should, "You want Toyota on that wall, You need Toyota on that wall" given how large Toyota is as a car manufacturer.
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This isn't really news. We've been saying this for sometime now.
Apple CarPlay was just now adopted because Lexus has been in contract negotiations in regards to what info Apple collects. So once it's all said and done, Lexus will likely be the least intrusive of the automakers that have adopted the technology.
Apple CarPlay was just now adopted because Lexus has been in contract negotiations in regards to what info Apple collects. So once it's all said and done, Lexus will likely be the least intrusive of the automakers that have adopted the technology.
Toyota/Lexus might end up being the least intrusive automakers regarding this department.
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Lexus Fanatic
Interesting article. Who knows what is true and what is not with Google. However, I used to be anAndroid user (Google phone) and it knew everything I did and used I believe all the data of my searches, places I have been, emails, etc etc. It was pretty good at how the services enhanced my life but it was also a little concerning in that everything was known or interpreted. So I think I can support the idea of leaving Android out of Toyota’s for the time being.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 04-19-18 at 12:41 PM.
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while i agree with you on conclusion, there is a huge difference between android auto and carplay - Apple takes only data it needs, while Android Auto uploads everything about your car to its servers:
people care about their privacy only when bad things happen though, like with facebook.
people care about their privacy only when bad things happen though, like with facebook.
Google won't collect any car information unless the car make voluntarily send it back to Android phone.
Android auto and Car play on Car side are just a client (video projector) to the server on phone side.
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google can already track where you are all the time and so much other telemetry with or without android auto (unless explicitly turned off which is hard), i think toyota is probably just pissed they can't make money from all the data.
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Google, Facebook make money based on tracking what you do so they can target you better.
There is vast difference between these companies.
Personally I dont really care, but I think in few years privacy will be valued a lot more after appropriate laws are passed.
#10
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but Toyota, like Apple does not make money from ads. So they dont want their users tracked.
Google, Facebook make money based on tracking what you do so they can target you better.
There is vast difference between these companies.
Personally I dont really care, but I think in few years privacy will be valued a lot more after appropriate laws are passed.
Google, Facebook make money based on tracking what you do so they can target you better.
There is vast difference between these companies.
Personally I dont really care, but I think in few years privacy will be valued a lot more after appropriate laws are passed.
I am pretty sure Apple makes money from ads. Not like Google but perhaps different. I am on a trip through the US and every ad is local depending on the area I am in. So once I open the MLB app as I follow my Toronto team, a number of Savannah Georgia ads show up.
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lame... anyhow, let us decide if we want it.
btw, google does tracks and keeps history of you locations... you can turn it off, but I'm sure most of you already know this.
https://support.google.com/maps/answ...DAndroid&hl=en
btw, google does tracks and keeps history of you locations... you can turn it off, but I'm sure most of you already know this.
https://support.google.com/maps/answ...DAndroid&hl=en
#12
that kind of targeting is based on your internet connection, not your gps - obviously it is wrong, since it is not showing you what you want to see. On Google phone you would always see ad for your own team. And Google Adsense is used a lot in iPhone apps as well.
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lame... anyhow, let us decide if we want it.
btw, google does tracks and keeps history of you locations... you can turn it off, but I'm sure most of you already know this.
https://support.google.com/maps/answ...DAndroid&hl=en
btw, google does tracks and keeps history of you locations... you can turn it off, but I'm sure most of you already know this.
https://support.google.com/maps/answ...DAndroid&hl=en
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i think jill is saying she's near Savannah so the ads are locally relevant so it is using gps (although it doesn't need it anyway, because of cell tower mapping).