Future of the Lexus GS around the world
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Thus, regardless of the extra availability of body styles like coupes & wagons [which didn't account for much volume anyway], sales of 5 Series still rose during the successive era, while 4GS sales fell by a whopping 30%.
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Well at least the GSF will survive 1 more year.
The 10th Anniversary edition with Blue interior is the best GS ever made, so at least it goes out in style. For those in the market and can find one, definitely get it.
The 10th Anniversary edition with Blue interior is the best GS ever made, so at least it goes out in style. For those in the market and can find one, definitely get it.
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5 Series sales figures have always included wagons, though 5 Series wagons sold in only very small numbers, yet 2003-10 5th gen E60 peaked at 57k units/year, while the 2010-17 6th gen F10 5 Series was able to rise in sales to 60k+/year USA.
Thus, regardless of the extra availability of body styles like coupes & wagons [which didn't account for much volume anyway], sales of 5 Series still rose during the successive era, while 4GS sales fell by a whopping 30%.
Thus, regardless of the extra availability of body styles like coupes & wagons [which didn't account for much volume anyway], sales of 5 Series still rose during the successive era, while 4GS sales fell by a whopping 30%.
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I'm not sure if this is true, because the previous generation of ES/GS like 2006-12 5ES & 2005-12 3GS - both models sold well.
Also, the 1996-01 3ES/2001-06 4ES and 1998-05 2GS - both ES and GS sold well too.
For some reason whatever, 4GS fell relative to its predecessors.
If I'm not wrong, the V8 sold in only small numbers.
2.0T is the way to the future, like it or not.
IMO, a lower price is not needed.
IMO, 4GS reverted to the old tall & boxy spacious practical design, when the market swung back to 3GS's low rounded swoopy design - hence sales down.
IMO, it needs to be better styled - like the forthcoming low swoopy 7ES...
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Also, the 1996-01 3ES/2001-06 4ES and 1998-05 2GS - both ES and GS sold well too.
For some reason whatever, 4GS fell relative to its predecessors.
If I'm not wrong, the V8 sold in only small numbers.
2.0T is the way to the future, like it or not.
IMO, a lower price is not needed.
IMO, 4GS reverted to the old tall & boxy spacious practical design, when the market swung back to 3GS's low rounded swoopy design - hence sales down.
IMO, it needs to be better styled - like the forthcoming low swoopy 7ES...
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The 2016 styling update, putting a 4cyl as a base engine, raising price on the 6 cylinder, taking away good lease deals/regular deals is when sales of the 4th Gen GS collapsed. The big problem is you pay too much more for a GS over a ES when they are pretty similar especially now that you only get a 4cyl with the base GS and the ES is a 6 cylinder. A 8 cylinder option for the GS would have made it more distinctive and desirable over a ES.
Buyers are not desiring 4 cyl turbo's in mid sized luxury sedans, it is more it is the only entry choices they are being given mainly by the Germans and the cheap lease deals are the 4 cylinders, Caddy dropped their 4cyl turbo from the CT6 because sales were so poor and it did not suit the car.
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Buyers are not desiring 4 cyl turbo's in mid sized luxury sedans, it is more it is the only entry choices they are being given mainly by the Germans and the cheap lease deals are the 4 cylinders, Caddy dropped their 4cyl turbo from the CT6 because sales were so poor and it did not suit the car.
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One would think not, but the Lincoln MKZ mid-sized sedan seems to sell with a base 2.0T. I agree, though.....that was one reason why I did not get one....I initially liked the 2017 mid-cycle refresh, but the MKZ does not offer a N/A V6, and I don't think that a base 2.0T belongs in a car of that class.
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True, but we all know the true reason that the small turbo fours are proliferating where V6s and V8s used to be.....CAFE. That's one reason why I hope that the Trump Administration is successful in rolling back the latest bump in the CAFE standards.
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Would be nice, but probably gonna have to get past that big loony state that starts with a C first.
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If the price was the same or within less then $1000 for a 4cyl or 6cyl I doubt many buyers would choose the 4cyl over the 6 especially in a mid size luxury car.
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Former GS owner here. Boy, I miss her. Happy with my RX350 f sport but have to admit that the GS is one to remember. Today, coincidentally, I saw one GS in atomic silver go by looking classy and almost timeless. Nightfall mica (like my old car) was also another great color. I hope Lexus brings back something along the lines of GS.
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Former GS owner here. Boy, I miss her. Happy with my RX350 f sport but have to admit that the GS is one to remember. Today, coincidentally, I saw one GS in atomic silver go by looking classy and almost timeless. Nightfall mica (like my old car) was also another great color. I hope Lexus brings back something along the lines of GS.