BMW M cars will all be hybrid or EV by 2030
07-20-18 | 10:34 AM
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BMW M cars will all be hybrid or EV by 2030
M division boss says electric tech will be up to the task by then
The CEO of BMW's M division, Frank Van Meel, has stated earlier that the future of the division will include electrified cars. As BMW plans to have electric or hybrid cars form 40 percent of its production output by 2025, M cars will be part of that. And now, Van Meel says that by the end of the next decade, all BMW M models will have electrified tech in them.
According to CarAdvice, Van Meel spoke with Australian journalists in Spain, telling them the timeline for hybrid M tech will be there step by step, stressing that timing is crucial for BMW M to deliver a successful product. Van Meel doesn't want an electrified M car to be half-baked, heavy or unsatisfying due to a rush to market before the technology has been perfected.
"Look at today's electrification components," he said. "They are quite heavy and, for us as a motorsportscompany, overall vehicle weight and power-to-weight ratio is key."
Van Meel also says an M car should drive like one. The M division has used every engine configuration from four cylinders to straight sixes, from V8 to V10, in search for the best-suited powerplant for the cars in question. Hybrid and electric tech is fair game for M cars, too, as long as it is there for performance's sake without hampering the feel. Or as Van Meel put it: "The basic target is not so much the components of the technology itself. It's more the philosophy."
According to CarAdvice, Van Meel spoke with Australian journalists in Spain, telling them the timeline for hybrid M tech will be there step by step, stressing that timing is crucial for BMW M to deliver a successful product. Van Meel doesn't want an electrified M car to be half-baked, heavy or unsatisfying due to a rush to market before the technology has been perfected.
"Look at today's electrification components," he said. "They are quite heavy and, for us as a motorsportscompany, overall vehicle weight and power-to-weight ratio is key."
Van Meel also says an M car should drive like one. The M division has used every engine configuration from four cylinders to straight sixes, from V8 to V10, in search for the best-suited powerplant for the cars in question. Hybrid and electric tech is fair game for M cars, too, as long as it is there for performance's sake without hampering the feel. Or as Van Meel put it: "The basic target is not so much the components of the technology itself. It's more the philosophy."
07-20-18 | 05:59 PM
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EU regulations will kill all German performance cars.
M Performance exhaust for current M models is now banned in Europe and dealers can no longer sell them.
New euro spec cars will be less powerful than US versions due to exhaust restrictions.
M Performance exhaust for current M models is now banned in Europe and dealers can no longer sell them.
New euro spec cars will be less powerful than US versions due to exhaust restrictions.
07-20-18 | 06:13 PM
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Is this because of the European emission standard: Euro 6 (2014), or a future one Euro 7 presumably?
07-21-18 | 05:22 AM
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Ofcourse they do.
New BMWs are fitted with whats called a Particulate Filter on their exhaust which reduces emissions and power therefore its no longer allowed to fit the MPE exhaust in EU.
US market is not getting this filter yet.
See link below for info:
https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/05/31/a...g-this-summer/
New BMWs are fitted with whats called a Particulate Filter on their exhaust which reduces emissions and power therefore its no longer allowed to fit the MPE exhaust in EU.
US market is not getting this filter yet.
See link below for info:
https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/05/31/a...g-this-summer/
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07-21-18 | 07:56 PM
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I'm not necessarily predicting it 100% (no one has a crystal ball)....but don't be surprised if we also start to see some power-limitations here in the U.S., too. The HP race in some vehicles, especially with high-end AMG vehicles, Shelby Mustangs, and Dodge Hellcats/Demons, has become simply absurd.
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07-22-18 | 08:00 AM
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Also, WLTP has made emissions on some of these so high that they stopped selling them due to taxes.
07-22-18 | 09:44 AM
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I say keep the ones that call out the man made global warming scam. Your bank account will thank you once you see how much that "green energy", forced hybrids/electrics are going to cost you. One party/other industries will be getting very rich/powerful from that which is why they are pushing it so hard.
07-22-18 | 11:16 AM
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new rules for Euro VI (it has sub versions) where they started checking particulate emissions for petrol vehicles which were exempt before. So especially turbo-petrols had very high particulate emissions (more than diesels) that are damaging to the health, so now there are particulate filters there too. Even GS-F and RC-F got theirs but I think they are less restrictive since turbo's are where the most of the problem is.
Also, WLTP has made emissions on some of these so high that they stopped selling them due to taxes.
Also, WLTP has made emissions on some of these so high that they stopped selling them due to taxes.
07-25-18 | 01:14 PM
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Exhaust affect emissions. This change is highly related to the intense emissions laws across the EU.
The world is moving towards more green. While the USA just rolled-back regulations, the world isn't. We are going to get more efficient cars no matter what - the US isn't the center of the market.
For one - I'm not too worried about M hybrid cars. They'll perform better but the sound will be missed.
The world is moving towards more green. While the USA just rolled-back regulations, the world isn't. We are going to get more efficient cars no matter what - the US isn't the center of the market.
For one - I'm not too worried about M hybrid cars. They'll perform better but the sound will be missed.
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