Spy shots - LC-F
07-25-18 | 09:42 PM
#31
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But none of those cars you mentioned are on the same category. lol. Sure they are faster and has cheap HP but none of them are exclusive or has a immaculate design as such the LC offers. we need to reserve judgment for later, as Lexus is trying to find the market where they can sell these cars and improve the brand cachet and make profit at the same time.
07-25-18 | 11:24 PM
#32
Sorry, your opinions are not rooted in reality. Find 5 reputable reviews that reflect your views, per car. Considering the amount of reviews that are done on these types of cars, it shouldn't be hard to find 5.
07-26-18 | 08:10 AM
#33
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Thats not my job to do , you’re the one challenging me so you find 5 that back you up. Most reviews call it clumsy but I realize this is a Lexus forum and the truth can be painful. Even owners have mentioned this not just car reviewers spending a few days with the car.
07-26-18 | 08:30 AM
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I mentioned those cars because they are the performance oriented cars of those brands. The F is supposed to be the performance portion of Lexus but has been disappointing since they got rid of the ISF. If people want a luxury regular Lexus get the non f what’s the point of the F exactly? GSF and RCF doesn’t handle great, I hope this does, they are both heavy as hell this will be too. Mercedes keeps the luxury element high but their engines are far more violent, raw,and fast as hell with AMG. The C63 will blow away every F car and costs about the same.
RC F: 3,958 lbs
C 63 S Coupe: 4,096 lbs
07-26-18 | 08:36 AM
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And the C 63 Will blow the doors off an RCF
07-26-18 | 08:53 AM
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Well, seeing as how this thread is about the LC...
I have no doubt that an equivalent Merc will be quicker in a straight line to a Lexus F car in the current line up. Even around the track as a whole. However, that's not entirely the point. Besides, 600 horsepower and a little over 4000 lbs, with a quick-shifting torque-converter auto, and rear-wheel drive. Where have we seen that before?
How about the previous-generation E 63? It had 577 horsepower and weighed as much as 4600 lbs. It could do 0-60 in about 3.4 seconds. So, we are talking about a car that is lighter than that and has even more horsepower (if the rumors are true). Granted, the AMG had 4Matic, whereas I'd predict the Lexus to be rear-wheel drive. Still, even if it's a little slower in the 0-60 due to having less traction, it should be fine in the quarter and around a track, due to the lighter weight afforded by keeping a rear-wheel drive drivetrain.
I'm just being hypothetical, but my point is it's clearly too early to call how this car will stack up against others in its "class".
I have no doubt that an equivalent Merc will be quicker in a straight line to a Lexus F car in the current line up. Even around the track as a whole. However, that's not entirely the point. Besides, 600 horsepower and a little over 4000 lbs, with a quick-shifting torque-converter auto, and rear-wheel drive. Where have we seen that before?
How about the previous-generation E 63? It had 577 horsepower and weighed as much as 4600 lbs. It could do 0-60 in about 3.4 seconds. So, we are talking about a car that is lighter than that and has even more horsepower (if the rumors are true). Granted, the AMG had 4Matic, whereas I'd predict the Lexus to be rear-wheel drive. Still, even if it's a little slower in the 0-60 due to having less traction, it should be fine in the quarter and around a track, due to the lighter weight afforded by keeping a rear-wheel drive drivetrain.
I'm just being hypothetical, but my point is it's clearly too early to call how this car will stack up against others in its "class".
07-26-18 | 09:00 AM
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No, I 100% agree. They haven't really committed to building a high-performance car. However I think the LC is a good opportunity to demonstrate their ability to compete, if they take the chance. Here's hoping!
07-26-18 | 09:05 AM
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I think those are the intercoolers for each bank. Probably just testing out for now with some hand made brackets for mounting.
07-26-18 | 01:48 PM
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07-26-18 | 02:08 PM
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mustangs, corvettes, and camaros are a dime a dozen and not rare. There are people always trying to take pictures when we're in the LC and Viper. Who cares that some cars are faster youre stuck in traffic 99% of the time. There is always a faster car. This experience is a heck of a lot more fun than telling someone this car is .5 sec faster at X.
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07-26-18 | 03:32 PM
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mustangs, corvettes, and camaros are a dime a dozen and not rare. There are people always trying to take pictures when we're in the LC and Viper. Who cares that some cars are faster youre stuck in traffic 99% of the time. There is always a faster car. This experience is a heck of a lot more fun than telling someone this car is .5 sec faster at X.
07-26-18 | 04:06 PM
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Since I have owned GS 350 before, I notice one strange thing.
05' GS and 12' E350 has similar HP and torque on paper, but when I push them hard, they behave similar below 60 mph, when I keep pushing, GS doesn't give me much push at high speed, E350 can push my back even over 80+ mph, I consulted with Lexus Stevens, the sales guy told me I shouldn't torture it, it can damage the engine, so I guess Lexus put some protections of high RPM.
05' GS and 12' E350 has similar HP and torque on paper, but when I push them hard, they behave similar below 60 mph, when I keep pushing, GS doesn't give me much push at high speed, E350 can push my back even over 80+ mph, I consulted with Lexus Stevens, the sales guy told me I shouldn't torture it, it can damage the engine, so I guess Lexus put some protections of high RPM.
07-26-18 | 05:03 PM
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07-26-18 | 05:26 PM
#45
I mentioned those cars because they are the performance oriented cars of those brands. The F is supposed to be the performance portion of Lexus but has been disappointing since they got rid of the ISF. If people want a luxury regular Lexus get the non f what’s the point of the F exactly? GSF and RCF doesn’t handle great, I hope this does, they are both heavy as hell this will be too. Mercedes keeps the luxury element high but their engines are far more violent, raw,and fast as hell with AMG. The C63 will blow away every F car and costs about the same.
Doesn't handle great? Lol ah someone mentioned, find 5 articles that said the gsf doesn't handle great. You wanted him to find it but you're stating a bunch of lies.