does everything need to be rebooted these days?
08-08-18, 05:43 AM
#1
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does everything need to be rebooted these days?
This happened with that Grand Caravan rental car.
We came back from Toronto on the GO train, so I remote started the minivan as we approached it in the garage. It was bumper to bumper out of the garage to the street.
In my mind, I was thinking this AC is not working, maybe for some reason it needs more time. The day before, my wife's cousin said, man this AC is nice, it's really cold.
That day, it was another cousin, the first cousin's brother. Finally he goes, I don't think the AC is working. My wife goes, will we get charged? I was thinking, dang if it's not working it'll be a long a** hot ride back to PA! Shut the car off, restarted, and AC was ice cold.
Later, I tried to duplicate the issue. Remote started, put key in ignition and turned, AC was ice cold. Same procedure as above.
It seems that with software driving so much in cars nowadays, we instinctively reboot, and it often clears up issues....(there was an episode where Doug D had to do the same with a Velar)
We came back from Toronto on the GO train, so I remote started the minivan as we approached it in the garage. It was bumper to bumper out of the garage to the street.
In my mind, I was thinking this AC is not working, maybe for some reason it needs more time. The day before, my wife's cousin said, man this AC is nice, it's really cold.
That day, it was another cousin, the first cousin's brother. Finally he goes, I don't think the AC is working. My wife goes, will we get charged? I was thinking, dang if it's not working it'll be a long a** hot ride back to PA! Shut the car off, restarted, and AC was ice cold.
Later, I tried to duplicate the issue. Remote started, put key in ignition and turned, AC was ice cold. Same procedure as above.
It seems that with software driving so much in cars nowadays, we instinctively reboot, and it often clears up issues....(there was an episode where Doug D had to do the same with a Velar)
08-08-18, 06:17 AM
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sometimes remote start can put car in a different ac 'mode' than you might be expecting, like defrost, so i expect it wasn't 'not working', just in the wrong mode.
the phone app for my car lets you set the temp you want the car to go to when it starts and it has a switch for turning on defrost which was on by default i think... took me a while to figure out why there was nothing coming out of the main dash vents when i got in it. now i make sure the defrost switch on the app is off!
the phone app for my car lets you set the temp you want the car to go to when it starts and it has a switch for turning on defrost which was on by default i think... took me a while to figure out why there was nothing coming out of the main dash vents when i got in it. now i make sure the defrost switch on the app is off!
08-08-18, 07:05 AM
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sometimes remote start can put car in a different ac 'mode' than you might be expecting, like defrost, so i expect it wasn't 'not working', just in the wrong mode.
the phone app for my car lets you set the temp you want the car to go to when it starts and it has a switch for turning on defrost which was on by default i think... took me a while to figure out why there was nothing coming out of the main dash vents when i got in it. now i make sure the defrost switch on the app is off!
the phone app for my car lets you set the temp you want the car to go to when it starts and it has a switch for turning on defrost which was on by default i think... took me a while to figure out why there was nothing coming out of the main dash vents when i got in it. now i make sure the defrost switch on the app is off!
I get what you mean, when the car is running, but the key has not been inserted yet and turned to ON, who knows what the car should be doing....
There had to have been some condition met that said AC should be off, although the dash is indicating it's on....
08-08-18, 12:52 PM
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08-08-18, 01:00 PM
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ah, the old myth of 60F vs LO vs any other temp below the current temp in the car - IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. the climate system can only vary output air temp and fan speed. if diff. between temp inside car and climate set temp is somewhat big, say >9 degrees, then the car's gonna put out its coldest air at the highest fan speed. so if you get in a car on a hot day and it's 90 in the car - whether you set the climate to 80, 70, 60, or LO will make ZERO difference in the output. once the car gets closer inside to the set temp, the fan speed will drop proportionately.
I do wonder, prior to electronic controls, when a car had a **** or lever, it would be easy to simply leave the lever to the cold position, and direct the vents to the face level. And even in the dead of winter, some nice cool air could come in. In the LS430, set it to 65 and vent, fresh not recirc, in the dead of winter, warm air is coming in. Even if it's 50, 55, 60 etc. Feel like telling the car, that's not what I want, I don't want to put it to low or max (whichever it is) and have the compressor kick in...
08-08-18, 04:38 PM
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Home AC units don't draw air from outside, they draw air from inside evacuating hot air and cooling it and delivering it back to the home. On full cool you expect about a temperature drop of about 20 degrees. So if the air going into the return from the house is 80 degrees, air coming out should be around 60 degrees. As the house inside cools the AC can make it colder and colder.
Last edited by SW17LS; 08-08-18 at 04:42 PM.
08-08-18, 04:53 PM
#7
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
If your AC is sized correctly, and ducted well when its 100 degrees outside you can make it 65 inside. If your AC won't get your house cooler than 80 when its 100 outside, something is wrong with your system.
Home AC units don't draw air from outside, they draw air from inside evacuating hot air and cooling it and delivering it back to the home. On full cool you expect about a temperature drop of about 20 degrees. So if the air going into the return from the house is 80 degrees, air coming out should be around 60 degrees. As the house inside cools the AC can make it colder and colder.
Home AC units don't draw air from outside, they draw air from inside evacuating hot air and cooling it and delivering it back to the home. On full cool you expect about a temperature drop of about 20 degrees. So if the air going into the return from the house is 80 degrees, air coming out should be around 60 degrees. As the house inside cools the AC can make it colder and colder.
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08-08-18, 05:06 PM
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Admittedly off topic, but I had AC installed in our house last summer. First time I’ve ever had it. It’s awesome and life changing! I don’t have to try to sleep in an 85+ degree house!
08-08-18, 05:13 PM
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LOL the Pacific Nortwest, baby. Less than 10% of homes here in Seattle have it. Our summers are not long so most people don’t find it to be worth the cost, but I’m glad I took the plunge.
08-08-18, 05:39 PM
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Every time a position opens in my company in a warmer climate I apply. One of these days it’ll pan out and we’ll trade evergreens for palm trees.
08-09-18, 05:05 AM
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If your AC is sized correctly, and ducted well when its 100 degrees outside you can make it 65 inside. If your AC won't get your house cooler than 80 when its 100 outside, something is wrong with your system.
Home AC units don't draw air from outside, they draw air from inside evacuating hot air and cooling it and delivering it back to the home. On full cool you expect about a temperature drop of about 20 degrees. So if the air going into the return from the house is 80 degrees, air coming out should be around 60 degrees. As the house inside cools the AC can make it colder and colder.
Home AC units don't draw air from outside, they draw air from inside evacuating hot air and cooling it and delivering it back to the home. On full cool you expect about a temperature drop of about 20 degrees. So if the air going into the return from the house is 80 degrees, air coming out should be around 60 degrees. As the house inside cools the AC can make it colder and colder.
This is oversimplification, yes, but you know how it goes nowadays with the web, everybody incl. me wants a simple way to get an answer. You can punch in 65F and see the results.
https://www.alpinehomeair.com/hc/cal..._estimator.cfm
Our central AC was replaced 3 yrs. before I bought the house so that was kind of a good thing. During a heat wave in 2008, go to use it for the first time after coming back from Disney World (all threads lead here), and doesn't work! I admit I was angry as all ****, why didn't I test it prior when it wasn't this hot (would make too much sense)? $16 later and a new capacitor, been good ever since, that's 10 yrs. ago, wow.
08-09-18, 07:08 AM
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Can I just say, LOL
This is oversimplification, yes, but you know how it goes nowadays with the web, everybody incl. me wants a simple way to get an answer. You can punch in 65F and see the results.
https://www.alpinehomeair.com/hc/cal..._estimator.cfm
This is oversimplification, yes, but you know how it goes nowadays with the web, everybody incl. me wants a simple way to get an answer. You can punch in 65F and see the results.
https://www.alpinehomeair.com/hc/cal..._estimator.cfm
In any event units are typically sized based on square footage not desired interior temperature. Coming from having purchased hundreds of AC units for managed properties.
Our central AC was replaced 3 yrs. before I bought the house so that was kind of a good thing. During a heat wave in 2008, go to use it for the first time after coming back from Disney World (all threads lead here), and doesn't work! I admit I was angry as all ****, why didn't I test it prior when it wasn't this hot (would make too much sense)? $16 later and a new capacitor, been good ever since, that's 10 yrs. ago, wow.