Toyota lexus sued over es300 seats???
08-20-18 | 03:39 AM
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Toyota lexus sued over es300 seats???
Here is the link don't know if its true or not
https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/242-million-awarded-lexus-es-300-seatback-lawsuit.shtml
If it is legite toyota lost millions in the lawsuit
https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/242-million-awarded-lexus-es-300-seatback-lawsuit.shtml
If it is legite toyota lost millions in the lawsuit
08-20-18 | 05:42 AM
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I'm not sure I agree with the jury award. The car in question was fourteen years old. And, for all we know, the car could have been in a flood or had water leak inside which could have caused the seat-flttings to corrode and deteriorate.
The crash occurred on September 25, 2016, when Benjamin Reavis was driving a 2002 Lexus ES 300 on State Highway 75 in Dallas County, Texas. His wife Kristi Reavis was in the front passenger seat, and their 3-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter were restrained in the back seat when the Lexus was struck from the rear by a Honda Pilot.
According to the lawsuit, both the driver’s side seat and front passenger’s side seat failed and collapsed into the back seat where the children were seated. The children’s heads were struck by the collapsing seats and/or their parents as the front seats collapsed into the back seat.
The children sustained skull fractures and brain injuries among other permanent injuries.
The lawsuit alleges the Lexus ES 300 was dangerous and defectively designed because the front seats weren't attached correctly to the base and because the seats could distort in relation to the base. In addition, the front seats could allegedly detach from their tracks in rear impact collisions causing the seats to fail.
The plaintiffs claim this chain of events never would have happened if the Lexus had been well-designed.
The nine-man, three-woman jury deliberated more than eight hours before finding Toyota had failed to warn about the seats, with $143.6 million awarded in punitive damages after jurors agreed the actions of Toyota amounted to gross negligence.
According to the plaintiffs, Toyota decided to protect front seat occupants from crash injuries like whiplash at the expense of rear seat passengers.
“This is a danger that Toyota has known about. This company has had plenty of time to design around these safety shortcomings or at least provide the public with warnings. Our children deserve better.” - Frank Branson, attorney for the family
According to the lawsuit, both the driver’s side seat and front passenger’s side seat failed and collapsed into the back seat where the children were seated. The children’s heads were struck by the collapsing seats and/or their parents as the front seats collapsed into the back seat.
The children sustained skull fractures and brain injuries among other permanent injuries.
The lawsuit alleges the Lexus ES 300 was dangerous and defectively designed because the front seats weren't attached correctly to the base and because the seats could distort in relation to the base. In addition, the front seats could allegedly detach from their tracks in rear impact collisions causing the seats to fail.
The plaintiffs claim this chain of events never would have happened if the Lexus had been well-designed.
The nine-man, three-woman jury deliberated more than eight hours before finding Toyota had failed to warn about the seats, with $143.6 million awarded in punitive damages after jurors agreed the actions of Toyota amounted to gross negligence.
According to the plaintiffs, Toyota decided to protect front seat occupants from crash injuries like whiplash at the expense of rear seat passengers.
“This is a danger that Toyota has known about. This company has had plenty of time to design around these safety shortcomings or at least provide the public with warnings. Our children deserve better.” - Frank Branson, attorney for the family
08-20-18 | 01:36 PM
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Yah that reward is ridiculous they should not have gotten it, I believe that there car was rusted no way stock oem seats just snap in half unless there is extenuating circumstances. I did a bunch of research when purchasing racing seats and oem seats go through a bunch of testing to make sure they are safe as can be.
The seats in the car are the same ones used in the avalon right?
The seats in the car are the same ones used in the avalon right?
08-20-18 | 01:49 PM
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I'm sure that whether or not the car was rusted or mistreated or whatever was brought up by the defense and rejected by the Jury.
As for the amount being "too much" bear in mind from what it sounds like their kids lives were irreparably altered by this accident...we don't know the extent of that, we don't know what other complaints had been brought to Toyota's attention prior, etc.
And the seats didn't "break in half", the joint where they recline broke.
And they are not the same seats used in the Avalon.
As for the amount being "too much" bear in mind from what it sounds like their kids lives were irreparably altered by this accident...we don't know the extent of that, we don't know what other complaints had been brought to Toyota's attention prior, etc.
And the seats didn't "break in half", the joint where they recline broke.
And they are not the same seats used in the Avalon.
08-20-18 | 01:56 PM
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08-20-18 | 02:06 PM
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It doesn't surprise me that much. The NHTSA really needs to update the regulations for seats.
I work in aerospace and we have to go through a lot to certify our seats to keep them from doing exactly what these seats did here. Obviously the crash loads are different in a car, but no excuse for this to be allowed.
I work in aerospace and we have to go through a lot to certify our seats to keep them from doing exactly what these seats did here. Obviously the crash loads are different in a car, but no excuse for this to be allowed.
08-20-18 | 02:12 PM
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08-22-18 | 02:57 AM
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The 430 has a seat flaw too. See below I ended up buying replacement parts on ebay and having a local shop repair. Extremely expensive to repair from Lexus. Granted, I'm 6'6" 260lbs, but it shouldn't have broken with me just sitting back into the car. If it would have broken during a rear impact crash, I would have ended up in the back seat.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...ease-help.html
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08-24-18 | 01:35 PM
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$143.6 million
08-24-18 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
I can understand a few million but who comes up with this?? One could buy 357 LFA's @ $400,000 a pop. Shouldn't the other driver that rear ended these folks vehicle be at fault? The car is 16 years old!
08-24-18 | 04:23 PM
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