Ford cancels Focus Active import plans due to China tariffs
09-03-18, 07:47 AM
#61
Lexus Fanatic
I'm hardly saying that Ford is the best run auto company in the industry, I'm just saying that out of the US Automakers, they're the best run one. I don't agree with the decision to end ALL car sales in the US, but I will stand by my statement that Ford isn't going anywhere.
09-03-18, 07:55 AM
#62
Lexus Test Driver
I'm hardly saying that Ford is the best run auto company in the industry, I'm just saying that out of the US Automakers, they're the best run one. I don't agree with the decision to end ALL car sales in the US, but I will stand by my statement that Ford isn't going anywhere.
Fiesta, Focus and Fusion were some of their best cars ever and truly competitive on a world scale. This sparked a small turnaround. So what does Ford do? They milk the product and profits without any reinvestment. Its always easy just to give up........
09-03-18, 08:20 AM
#63
Lexus Fanatic
They have reinvested. They are being built in other parts of the world aside front the US. The goal was to import the smaller cars into the US but Trump has derailed that with tariffs. Issue now is that the Trump supporters magically think that because of the tariffs, Ford is all of a sudden going to start making new plants and build these cars in the US. It is not going to happen
09-03-18, 08:23 AM
#64
Lexus Fanatic
Like it or not, small cars are just not what consumers want, they want small crossovers, which Ford is developing and already has.
09-03-18, 08:24 AM
#65
Lexus Fanatic
I think most manufacturers import their small cars from other parts of the world. Ford building their small cars in the US puts them at an incredible disadvantage from a competitive point of view
09-03-18, 08:28 AM
#66
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09-03-18, 08:32 AM
#67
Lexus Champion
Production cannot just be moved overnight. There’s a timeline and a huge cost. It’s a lot to go through and by the time they move it the next presidential vote will be coming. If I were them, I’d cancel my plans to import the car then wait to see what the next presidential election brings.
09-03-18, 10:27 AM
#68
Lexus Fanatic
Production cannot just be moved overnight. There’s a timeline and a huge cost. It’s a lot to go through and by the time they move it the next presidential vote will be coming. If I were them, I’d cancel my plans to import the car then wait to see what the next presidential election brings.
09-03-18, 11:02 AM
#69
Lexus Fanatic
Strictly related to only auto production and cars. How has Trumps tariffs provided more good than harm? Choices decreasing are never good.
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09-03-18, 12:52 PM
#70
Lexus Fanatic
The economy, right now, overall, is the best it has been for probably 20 years....and, in numerous areas, keeps improving. Conditions in the Rust Belt and the coal industry are still less than ideal, but are improving noticeably. The stock market is at record highs (though it may not stay that way much longer for Tesla and Ford) and unemployment is at the lowest level in decades. You, me, and several others in Car Chat have argued back and forth, over many posts, whether the tariffs will force cancellation of certain vehicles here in the American market, or whether auto companies will see the light, give up on trying to produce them cheaper overseas, and simply turn to American labor again, and sell them here for whatever profit they can get. Time will tell who is correct and who isn't (and none of us have a crystal ball), but I am still of the opinion that demand for certain vehicles here in the U.S., combined with tariffs on those produced overseas, will force some return to the U.S. of at least some of the plants and labor. Is that prediction set in stone? No...but I think that common sense on the part of corporate marketers will eventually prevail, and this current obsession with cheap production overseas will stop.
09-03-18, 02:03 PM
#71
Lexus Fanatic
But the point of this whole thread is right here is a car model that is cancelled in the US because of the tariffs. So we don't have to wonder anymore if automakers might cancel some models, clearly they are and will.
09-03-18, 04:14 PM
#72
Pole Position
The economy, right now, overall, is the best it has been for probably 20 years....and, in numerous areas, keeps improving. Conditions in the Rust Belt and the coal industry are still less than ideal, but are improving noticeably. The stock market is at record highs (though it may not stay that way much longer for Tesla and Ford) and unemployment is at the lowest level in decades. You, me, and several others in Car Chat have argued back and forth, over many posts, whether the tariffs will force cancellation of certain vehicles here in the American market, or whether auto companies will see the light, give up on trying to produce them cheaper overseas, and simply turn to American labor again, and sell them here for whatever profit they can get. Time will tell who is correct and who isn't (and none of us have a crystal ball), but I am still of the opinion that demand for certain vehicles here in the U.S., combined with tariffs on those produced overseas, will force some return to the U.S. of at least some of the plants and labor. Is that prediction set in stone? No...but I think that common sense on the part of corporate marketers will eventually prevail, and this current obsession with cheap production overseas will stop.
I don't disagree that by many measures the economy is continuing to do well, and and I don't disagree that a lot of average working families will tell you the same. The thing those average working families are missing, however, is that the vast majority of the current economic benefits aren't for them - they are laser-focused to the already wealthy. There's a significant number of people in this country who hear things so often they think it's true for everyone. Simple fact is if you make your living from a job where your wage is one of those usually expressed as an hourly rate then you're treading water at best.
09-03-18, 04:17 PM
#73
Lexus Fanatic
09-03-18, 04:21 PM
#74
Lexus Fanatic
And the depth of water has no bearing on how easy or hard it is to tread water, the only thing that makes it easier is if its shallow enough you can stand.
So your turn of phrase just doesn't make sense on any level.
09-03-18, 04:27 PM
#75
Lexus Fanatic
Actually the water level in the pool is steadily RISING. Cost of living is going up, not down.
And the depth of water has no bearing on how easy or hard it is to tread water, the only thing that makes it easier is if its shallow enough you can stand.
So your turn of phrase just doesn't make sense on any level.
And the depth of water has no bearing on how easy or hard it is to tread water, the only thing that makes it easier is if its shallow enough you can stand.
So your turn of phrase just doesn't make sense on any level.