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Agreed. Thanks for checking. Shows that even though they are both German makes, they might have different electronics in them, though many German components typically come from Bosch.
I tried out my parents new Avalon today, thought of you in mind. Their car will start if the key is on the roof of the car.
I tried out my parents new Avalon today, thought of you in mind. Their car will start if the key is on the roof of the car.
Thanks for keeping me in mind. I thought of trying it on my Lacrosse, since it has such a low roof (by sedan standards) that is quite close to the ignition button, but I don't know all the details of how the GM system is wired, and I was concerned it might set off the burglar alarm....which my neighbors would not appreciate. I already set the alarm off once, a couple of months ago, accidentally, when I was trying to do something (can't remember what it was) with the trunk partly open.
So, I find a lot of variability of these systems and how they will work depending on where the key is.
The Lexus is pretty strict. If theres another key in the car for instance it will not lock the doors with the keyless system. If you leave your key in the car and try and lock it from the outside button, it won't do it. It also will not start if the key is in the back seat. Has to be in the front seat, driver or passenger. You cant lean in and start the Lexus with the key in your pocket outside of the vehicle interior.
Our Pacifica will, and it has no problem with there being another key in the car, and doesn't care where that key is in the car, and you can lean in and start it. In fact, since I have my wallet key for the Lexus now I no longer carry a keychain, so when I drive the Pacifica I have to carry the key. Being absent minded I always misplace the key since I don't have a keychain anymore. I thought I had lost it for good, it was missing for over a week. We found it in the car in one of the console cubbies. I had put it there for the carwash, and my wife had been driving it all week with her Key and the van didnt care there was another key in the car. The Lexus would have refused to lock.
Our Pacifica will, and it has no problem with there being another key in the car, and doesn't care where that key is in the car, and you can lean in and start it. In fact, since I have my wallet key for the Lexus now I no longer carry a keychain, so when I drive the Pacifica I have to carry the key. Being absent minded I always misplace the key since I don't have a keychain anymore. I thought I had lost it for good, it was missing for over a week. We found it in the car in one of the console cubbies. I had put it there for the carwash, and my wife had been driving it all week with her Key and the van didnt care there was another key in the car. The Lexus would have refused to lock.
Not sure I follow you. I thought your Pacifica had push-button start, without a key....unless you are refering to a house key.
My Lacrosse doesn't have a key, either, but what I did was put the fob onto a ring, together with my house key, mailbox key, a couple of small grocery mini-bonus cards, and a key to my brother's house. That way, it also tends to make a jingle-noise so I know if it is in my pocket or not.
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Not sure I follow you. I thought your Pacifica had push-button start, without a key....unless you are refering to a house key.
It does...I'm not sure what you don't understand.
My Lacrosse doesn't have a key, either, but what I did was put the fob onto a ring, together with my house key, mailbox key, a couple of small grocery mini-bonus cards, and a key to my brother's house. That way, it also tends to make a jingle-noise so I know if it is in my pocket or not.
Yes...that would be logical and is what I always used to do. I used to carry the smart keys for both our cars on my keychain at the same time. I haven't had house keys for years because we have pushbutton combination locks on our house.
However, when I got my 17 LS460L I got the wallet key for it:
Since I drive the LS 90% of the time, I no longer carry a set of keys or a key ring. All of my door locks are push button combination locks and I have a private mailbox. So, when I do drive the Pacifica I have to remember to get the key off the hook and carry the key with me loose, and not part of a keyring.
What I did was get a little clip and put it on the Pacifica key so I can clip it to my belt loop when I'm driving the Pacifica and not lose it.
However, when I got my 17 LS460L I got the wallet key for it:
The flat wallet key inside the little folder is an interesting design. GM, in contrast, builds a metal key, inside of the bob itself, which either flips or pulls out....and you pull a trim-cover off the door handle to reveal an emergency keyhole.
The flat wallet key inside the little folder is an interesting design. GM, in contrast, builds a metal key, inside of the bob itself, which either flips or pulls out....and you pull a trim-cover off the door handle to reveal an emergency keyhole.
Thats just a Tumi card case similar to what I carry. The card key is just a key:
Lexus does the same thing with the emergency key. Even the wallet key has an emergency key:
The car doesn't come standard with the wallet key, I ordered it and had it programmed. It comes standard with two regular fobs.
Here is my key sticking out of my card case. I carry this in one pocket and my phone in the other (used to wear my phone in a holster on my belt before I did away with carrying keys) which means when I carry the Pacifica key its awkward.
a Kia nor any other brand with keyless push button start will not start, if the key is not INSIDE the car...
Owning a Genesis (same company as Kia) I just verified that mine will not start with the key on the roof: anywhere on the roof. it won't even start if I hold the fob out the window, nor will it start with the key in the trunk,
and I know for damn sure my RCF would not either, because I typically keep my fob in my left pocket, and there are times when I get into the car that my left leg is still outside the door and the RCF, Genesis, and wife's Toyota not start, all say "key not found".
With both the RCF and Genesis there have been times when I was fully in the car and I got "key not found" because the fob was in one of my cargo pockets and was down too low for the ignition array to pick it up.
Sorry I don't buy it.
Battery Life ! I picked up a New Toyota 4-Runner at their Torrance facility about 4 month's ago. It was about 30 min. before rush hour so I was in a hurry to beat it. Hopped in, couldn't find the key fob so I just pressed start button to confirm key was inside. Truck started as usual so I took off. Once I got up to 40mph the key fob flew off the windshield wiper where it had been sitting the whole time. Landed in the middle of the lane so I did a U-turn as fast as I could & retrieved it.
The flat wallet key inside the little folder is an interesting design. GM, in contrast, builds a metal key, inside of the bob itself, which either flips or pulls out....and you pull a trim-cover off the door handle to reveal an emergency keyhole.
key fob flew off the windshield wiper where it had been sitting the whole time. Landed in the middle of the lane so I did a U-turn as fast as I could & retrieved it.
Driving fast pays off...hear me out lol. Note: We all drive "aggressive". I have 4 friends that have been in accidents the past 1.5 years.
Friend #1 had 2 accidents. A FedEx truck hit him in traffic and the other he was doing 30 mph and a car made a u turn and they collided.
Friend #2 doing 60 on highway, road was wet ( not raining) and he hydroplaned hit the barrier.
Friend #3 going around a off ramp doing 40 mph and back tire blew out, slid off the road and into the grass. Broke 2 wheels.
Friend #4 was at a stand still and a car back into him.
All these accidents and they were going slow. So the theory is, drive fast and never get into an accident.
09-02-18 | 03:44 PM
I thought of trying it on my Lacrosse, since it has such a low roof (by sedan standards) that is quite close to the ignition button, but I don't know all the details of how the GM system is wired, and I was concerned it might set off the burglar alarm....which my neighbors would not appreciate. I already set the alarm off once, a couple of months ago, accidentally, when I was trying to do something (can't remember what it was) 
with the trunk partly open.
