Future of Lexus: Electric or Fuel-Cell?
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Future of Lexus: Electric or Fuel-Cell?
Future of Lexus: Electric or Fuel-Cell?
By Pouria
With the announcement of an electrified future, does fuel-cell still have a place in the future of Lexus?
By Pouria
With the announcement of an electrified future, does fuel-cell still have a place in the future of Lexus?
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Fuel cell has very limited presence here in Canada. Tesla is building charging stations along our country's main highway. The future in Canada at least seems electric/hybrid, probably hybrid for the near term.
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Lexus Champion
There could be a place for both, but perhaps not on the same type of vehicles.
For personal-use passenger vehicles, battery-fed electric power seems to be the preferred choice. But for long-distance commercial vehicles -- buses and tractor trailers -- hydrogen-fed fuel cell power may be the way to go, for the reason that refuelling with hydrogen is much quicker (on the order of minutes) than charging banks upon banks of batteries (on the order of hours).
For personal-use passenger vehicles, battery-fed electric power seems to be the preferred choice. But for long-distance commercial vehicles -- buses and tractor trailers -- hydrogen-fed fuel cell power may be the way to go, for the reason that refuelling with hydrogen is much quicker (on the order of minutes) than charging banks upon banks of batteries (on the order of hours).
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Lexus Fanatic
Lexus is pulling the wool over our eyes
People see electrified and think Tesla, fully battery powered. But then....
Groan.
Head of Lexus Canada, Jennifer Barron recently told journalists that Lexus will be featuring a complete lineup of electrified vehicles by 2025.
Of course, in speaking about an electric near-term future, Lexus is including hybrid technology.
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Lexus Test Driver
The best BEVs have a very different architecture than the Fuel Cell cars. The skateboard design in which the battery sits below the car is very different than the fuel cell cars that Toyota currently uses. Trying to get both off the same line would result in something like the current BMW electrics which are generally regarded as poor compared to the newer crop of EVs
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Lexus Fanatic
BEV has a battery and motors, fuel cell car has battery, motors, fuel cell and tank. Much different packaging.
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The best BEVs have a very different architecture than the Fuel Cell cars. The skateboard design in which the battery sits below the car is very different than the fuel cell cars that Toyota currently uses. Trying to get both off the same line would result in something like the current BMW electrics which are generally regarded as poor compared to the newer crop of EVs
It allows for two reasonably different set ups like HFCEV's vs BEV's to share both the same production line, as well as sharing a certain number of common components/parts?
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Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by peteharvey
Isn't "modular architecture" meant to compensate for this?
It allows for two reasonably different set ups like HFCEV's vs BEV's to share both the same production line, as well as sharing a certain number of common components/parts?
It allows for two reasonably different set ups like HFCEV's vs BEV's to share both the same production line, as well as sharing a certain number of common components/parts?
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Lexus Fanatic
The best BEVs have a very different architecture than the Fuel Cell cars. The skateboard design in which the battery sits below the car is very different than the fuel cell cars that Toyota currently uses. Trying to get both off the same line would result in something like the current BMW electrics which are generally regarded as poor compared to the newer crop of EVs
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 08-22-19 at 11:58 AM.
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Lexus Fanatic
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Lexus Test Driver
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The real kick in the pants will be when the next generation Jaguar XJ (rumored to be full BEV) and Mercedes EQS come to fruition. That might help Lexus decide what to do with the LS / LS Hybrid / and LS fuel cell concept and what direction to take. Granted its going to be a long wait