Fair enough, I am just surprised you went so far to open up a thread.

Looking more into the Car Play wireless or plugged idea I don't think it is going to matter all that much. Both a plugged in version as well as a charge pad will offered for a significant period of time. My iPhone 8 has wireless charging, I never use it as it sucks. so I just plug it in. In fact, I think wireless charge pad may one day not even be offered.

 

Yeah. Only opened up a thread about CP/AA in relation to wireless charging because I thought of something curious. In my mind, for someone that heavily uses CP/AA (tons of people actually are heavy users), they might find wireless charging to be useless as they already are required to plug in the phone.

Two questions:
Why does the iPhone 8 wireless charging suck? Does it charge slow? Or does it not register to the pad sometimes?
And why do you think wireless charging pad will not be offered one day?

 

Another interesting thing is that fast chargers are much faster than wireless charging... so for me it is a big plus.

Difference between iPhone wireless charging and my OnePlus dash charge in car is 4x... With USB charging I can also check my phone during charge, and with USB-C, it is convenient since it is easy to use the port.

Now for much longer trips, wireless is fine... but for my often 15m drives, I can recharge for 30%, that is awesome.

I guess - different people different usage scenario.

 

Interesting post, spwolf. How much faster is your OnePlus dash charge compared to your wireless charging?

That is one of the cons of wireless charging - is that you can't charge while you use your phone.

 

OnePlus does not have wireless... it is 4x faster than iPhone's wireless, and i guess 3x than Samsung's?
It really did change the way i use phone, since i can charge it so quickly.

New QC3.0 is almost there for other phones, and QC4.0 chargers are similar speed but not available yet.

 

 

 

 

Very good point.

Its actually true. Wireless charging, in general, is slower than wired charging. I think this has been proven on AppleInsider websites and many techie websites. This has to do with the limit iPhone is set to allow you to wirelessly charge. I believe the limit of charge for wired is higher than the wireless limit. Thus, leading the wired cable to charge faster.

Its also true that wireless charging harms the battery life overtime. This is in relation to the fact that a wireless pad charges your phone while using the internal coils. What happens is - the phone has to use the battery to keep the phone going while charging at the same time, while, a wired charge allows the phone to charge but at the same time powered by the wall outlet. Thus, less stress on the battery.
Hopefully that makes sense - they explain it better on tech websites and my cousin explains it better. (He actually works for Apple.) I'm no tech worker so I can't explain these stuff clearly. Lol.

I can understand your point of the wireless pad. You are saying either way, you gotta plug something into the wall.
When wireless charging first came out, I actually hoped they will make wireless charging completely wireless. IE: You have a charge brick thing that connects to the outlet and this wirelessly connects to your phone. Also have the ability to turn the charge on; on your phone. This way, once its on on your phone, you can wireless charge as long as you are near the wireless brick that is connected to your outlet. Kinda like how wireless mouses work with being connected to a USB stick - but instead it charges.
This removes the stupid charging pad that you leave on your tablet and makes things fully wireless.

 

 

nothing to do with iphone 'limits' it's just more efficient to move loads of electrons through wires than the air or induction.

i read your explanation but don't see any evidence of this.

regardless, whether wired or wireless, lithium ion batteries degrade however charged, 500 recharges it will likely be quite degraded... so once a day for 18 months! i recharge my phone as little as possible. i know some people are like crack addicts with charging though plugging in or on a pad at every possible chance.

not in a car (with pad) you don't.

 

My explanation is a little washy. My friend that works at Apple as a mechanical engineer explains it better. He explained it in a more techy way of why Apple battery life will degrade faster on wireless charge than wired charge.

But true, charging your phone often will degrade the life of the battery. I too try to not charge as often as I can. If my phone is 70%-60% at night, I'll leave not plugged overnight. Instead - I'll do a quick charge in the morning or charge it at work.

Jill and I were talking about specifically at home. Of course not in a car.

Question for you bit: How often do you use wireless charging on your car? Do you find wireless charging redundant when you use CP/AA since you are already plugged in?

 

With fast-charge capable iPhones the 12w adapter does fast charge when wired. Faster charging starts with the 7.5w charger, it takes quits a leap up when you use a 12w wired, and you'l see a further improvement with a higher powered 18w charger. The USB-C to lightning adapters deliver the best results as you noted, but it doesn't get any faster once you go above 18w.

It's just crazy that Apple persists with the 5w adapters, they really aren't up to the job.

 

Since wireless was mentioned, I often wonder what % like to understand what is going on....take wireless 2.4 ghz vs. 5 ghz. Some look to the higher number because there is "more goodness" in the number 5, vs. 2.4 lol

I'm able to use 2.4 at home and have all our device connect to it, with the exception of the samsung smart TV. I never wirelessly charge my S8, even though I have it available to me. My electric toothbrush, I have no choice. It is so inefficient it literally takes about 36 hours to charge and is always warm when doing so.

 

It's very difficult to be scientific especially on the web, so much is put out there and statistically invalid and unreliable. But for me, I've gone with the rule that with Li-ion, one can in fact charge often, all the time if desired. From a practical standpoint. Altogether different for remaining NiMH devices (we don't leave the dect 6 phones always plugged in to their chargers), and I highly doubt anyone uses NiCd anymore...

The other battery tip I love is how some make it sound like brutal winters are good for car batteries. Yes heat destroys them, but winter taxes them...