bitkahuna

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Globally maybe, that was probably when it started shipping in S. Korea.

Anyway this says LA Show is the US debut and they may show the midsize gv80 SUV too.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...9-la-auto-show

Wandl

Good write-up from Car & Driver on the new 2020 G90.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...sis-g90-drive/

More serene, NVH that claim to match/beat the S-Class/LS variants.

jrmckinley

I really, actually, I desperately want to like this car...but the exterior styling just prevents it from happening. How can I like a G70, love a G80, and dislike a G90 exterior styling? It is so close to being a homerun for me as an LS owner -but the odd road presence just absolutely kills it for me. IMO, the car has absolutely no presence or "stance". Perhaps I'd love it with some better wheels (think S class AMG 5 star wheels). I can't know for sure because Genesis refuses to offer a wheel design like that and I'm not a fan of after-market wheels, especially on luxury sedans. The interior is stunning, I like the size, I like the exterior styling cues for the most part. I just can't pull the trigger with those wheels. I'd rather buy a G80. And because of the fact I like luxo-land-yachts, I'd rather buy another LS over a G80, therefore bypassing the Genesis brand altogether.

FWIW, I do like how the article points out that in a world of cross-overs, the luxury sedan may be dying...but it can be the one thing that sets the tone for what the brand is capable of delivering. I agree with that across the entire segment.

mmarshall

GM..........are you listening? DUH.

Toys4RJill

Great update. love the wheels that cover the brakes. Great idea to add a touchscreen, now they have both. What a great concept? Truly incredible that the Genesis flagship has a V8 while the LS from Lexus does not. Ride is soft Crappy rear end. Interesting front. Hyundai went to GENESIS on the rear nobody knows the brand.

Great quote from the article


I think Hyundai would knock the automotive world off its foundation if they were to put a V12 in one of these things.

Great effort, this Genesis one-ups the Lexus LS

UDel

I really don't like some of these so called automotive "journalists". The "writer" is injecting his personal preferences, bias, and making pretentious attacks on anyone who may like or buy this car to just try to sound clever and witty. This is the same type of automotive writer that criticized buttons in cars 10 years ago over and over which likely led automakers to unleash extremely annoying touchscreens in cars making things far worse. I learned almost nothing about the car from reading it, just the writer sounds like a D bag. Does this clown really think only 84 year olds would like a very good S class competitor for 30K+ less?

Whoever makes a attractive grill for this car is going to make a lot of money.

bitkahuna

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it's subjective but i think the car will have huge presence in person. yes it's a bit 'overdone' to my tastes but they got criticized on my one for being too bland... i think they're appealing to their home audience though with all the new bling.

I read somewhere that in addition to the new 'woven' wheel design they will offer an alternative, perhaps like the ones on the '17-'19 g90.

SW17LS

I just really think they ruined the exterior of this car, I really dislike it, especially the rear, hate the wheels...front is way overdone...a shame IMO.

bitkahuna

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^^^ may not be for you but there's some glowing reviews out there already...

SW17LS

Oh I've watched and read them, I seem to be in the minority. I just wonder how many of those reviewers would actually be a consumer for this sort of vehicle, and how it will actually play with buyers.

bitkahuna

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good point... as you know there's not a ton of large luxury sedan vehicle buyers of ANY kind at this point. we're in a very small group, buddy

i don't expect the 2020 g90 to sell a load in the u.s. to be sure, if they sell more than 25% more run rate i'd be surprised.

jrmckinley

From certain angles in the pics, it seems like this is a car from the early/mid 90's. It keeps reminding me of a Buick Park Avenue and I'm not sure why.. I just know I don't want to be reminded of a Park Ave. To me it doesn't look like a car that's going to age well.

On a separate note, in some pics the rear door appears to be longer than the front door (like an LS 460L). Anyone know if that's the case? Pic 24 from the link really makes me think this. https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/...lery/?slide=24

SW17LS

It absolutely reminds me of a 90s Buick, I’m not sure why either.

Rear doors are longer yes.

jrmckinley

Glad I'm not the only one seeing a very odd similarity!!

G Star

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It definitely gets the job done though it isn't beautiful by any stretch.