GM closing Ontario, Detroit, and Ohio factories
#271
The U.S. hacks and attempts to hack Russia, China etc. this is not news. Maybe GM will start blaming their failures on the Russians.
#272
But all are free to believe what they want, for now.
#273
Well, no offense (and I know sometimes I come on a little strong), but, if so, then they chose the wrong host for that interview, because that guy had a pretty good idea of what he was talking about. GM's workers are not going to take this lightly. Neither are the politicians in Washington and Ottawa.
#274
I don't think anyone has posted this yet (I'll stand corrected if they have) but here is a heated debate, on the closings, in the (Canadian) Ontario Legislature between the two parties.
#275
I don't think anyone has posted this yet (I'll stand corrected if they have) but here is a heated debate, on the closings, in the (Canadian) Ontario Legislature between the two parties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_rOfpX4B0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_rOfpX4B0
#276
I wish we had debate like that here in the U.S. Congress. Here, members are given specific time-blocks to make their statement (often for only minute or so), and often aren't given the chance to directly refute statements, back-and-forth, made by their opponents, such as Howarth and Ford are doing. I notice they do the same thing in London, in the House of Commons.....free exchanges back and forth between the party leaders, without time-blocks or limits. Only, in London, the level of background noise and chatter is even louder....and people shout their approval or disapproval.
I usually don't back left-wing parties, BTW.......but Howarth, this time, made some good points. Ford, IMO, sounded to me like too much of a defeatist.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-11-18 at 10:52 AM.
#277
Back indeed. GM is now trying to defend itself from loss of subsidies....Good Luck.
https://www.wxyz.com/news/general-mo...plant-closures
https://www.wxyz.com/news/general-mo...plant-closures
#278
That depends on the details of the Union contracts, and how much job security is involved in those contracts.. I'm not going to make any predictions either way. But, going by simple math, yes, there would certainly be pressure for layoffs.
#279
So, do you not see how its in the best interest of American workers to leave those subsidies in place?
#280
It is in best interest of people working for Tesla and owning Tesla stock to have subsidies that help Tesla. It is definitely not in the interest of "American workers" in general.
#281
I personally think this would be good for those workers losing jobs because of GM. They would have the ability to work for Tesla, I have no idea if they would get paid the same and what the Union and Tesla would agree to etc...
Source: https://electrek.co/2018/12/07/tesla...ies-elon-musk/
Source: https://electrek.co/2018/12/07/tesla...ies-elon-musk/
Changes are hard but necessary.
Tesla does need a lot more capacity, and the way they are doing things employs a lot more people than GM plant ever did for the same output. If not Tesla, there are other companies going to the NA, just probably not the same town.
Right now Toyota/Mazda is adding new plant, 4000 employees. VW is also looking for new plant. FCA is moving back some production from Mexico. Toyota is also expanding some other plants.
Volvo just opened new plant few months ago.
A lot of new manufacturing is opening up, makes little sense to lose money:
https://www.industryweek.com/leaders...uilding-frenzy
It will be a good as it gets job market for those employees that are going to lose their jobs and they will also get good severance package.
#283
Back indeed. GM is now trying to defend itself from loss of subsidies....Good Luck.
https://www.wxyz.com/news/general-mo...plant-closures
https://www.wxyz.com/news/general-mo...plant-closures
#285
I'm still trying to picture what it would look like to have this administration come in to my work and tell us to ignore our sales data and profits and just build what they want us to build. That thought is astounding to me.