GM closing Ontario, Detroit, and Ohio factories
#751
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The Warren, MI transmission plant is shutting down this week.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/busin...ant/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/busin...ant/index.html
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-30-19 at 01:37 PM.
#753
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The Warren, MI transmission plant is shutting down this week.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/busin...ant/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/busin...ant/index.html
GM thanked the plant's roughly 200 employees in a statement. ...
... 60 workers have transferred to other factories in the United States
... 25 workers are retiring.
... 60 workers have transferred to other factories in the United States
... 25 workers are retiring.
#754
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Have you even been to an auto plant or lived close to one?
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-30-19 at 02:40 PM.
#755
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and yes i have lived close to one.
#756
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Here is a change. Full shift cut in Mexico, temporary cuts in Canada for the same model. GM sales in Canada are down quite a bit since last years closure announcements. Ontario sales are very bad.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/08/...anadian-plant/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/08/...anadian-plant/
But it’s workers at GM‘s San Luis Potosi plant, which like CAMI builds the Chevrolet Equinox, that have more to be upset about. The automaker permanently cut a shift at the Mexican plant, reducing it to just two shifts starting August 12th. Unifor Local 88 representative Mike Van Boekel was surprised to see GM cut a shift at the Mexican plant instead of the Canadian one, but has sympathy for the workers that will be let go.
“They have been notified that they’re going to take a shift off of them permanently starting August 12. It’s not good news for us but it’s terrible news for them,” Van Boekel told Global News. “I think it’s quite remarkable with all the news going on with Mexico and everything else that they’re electing to take a shift off the Mexican plant instead of the CAMI plant.”
https://globalnews.ca/news/5713791/t...ft-cut-mexico/
“They have been notified that they’re going to take a shift off of them permanently starting August 12. It’s not good news for us but it’s terrible news for them,” Van Boekel told Global News. “I think it’s quite remarkable with all the news going on with Mexico and everything else that they’re electing to take a shift off the Mexican plant instead of the CAMI plant.”
https://globalnews.ca/news/5713791/t...ft-cut-mexico/
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 08-02-19 at 07:47 PM.
#757
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something tells me gm doesn't want the wrath of trump.
#758
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Interesting......so GM now cuts a shift at the Equinox plant in Mexico. First, we were told that manufacturers can't keep up with demand for SUVs/CUVs (exactly the kind of vehicle that the Equinox represents), and, because of that demand, that other plants have to be shut down or converted to crossover/SUV production. Second, we were told that production also had to shift to Mexico, China, and other Third-World countries because of the cost of American/Canadian labor.
Sounds to me like somebody just got caught with two sets of their pants down.
As a compassionate person, I agree with Van Boekel that it is no pleasure to see any workers, even outside U.S. or Canadian borders, lose their jobs and/or suffer. But I will also say that those companies that operate under the U.S, or Canadian flags, IMO, also have a responsibility to hire American/Canadian workers first.
Sounds to me like somebody just got caught with two sets of their pants down.
"Unifor Local 88 representative Mike Van Boekel was surprised to see GM cut a shift at the Mexican plant instead of the Canadian one, but has sympathy for the workers that will be let go."
As a compassionate person, I agree with Van Boekel that it is no pleasure to see any workers, even outside U.S. or Canadian borders, lose their jobs and/or suffer. But I will also say that those companies that operate under the U.S, or Canadian flags, IMO, also have a responsibility to hire American/Canadian workers first.
Last edited by mmarshall; 08-03-19 at 07:13 AM.
#759
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I ran into the sales-rep who sold me both my Verano and present Lacrosse at Red Lobster today (seems that we both like the food and the servers there), and we discussed the plant-closings over a nice lunch. Seems he is just as mad, if not more, about the closings and elimination of sedans as I am....although he is not quite as vocal about it as I am. Like me, he doesn't buy Mary Barra's public explanations for it (and, from what he tells me, neither does most of the staff at the dealership). For example, he sells a lot of Chevy Cruzes, even more than some of the SUV models....and, since the dealership did away with the former policy of allowing salespeople to take home vehicles at night, he bought a Cruze for himself as his daily driver and personal car. According to him, the Impala is now a special-order vehicle...although it is unclear just how long that will last, as the Hamtramck plant is scheduled to close at the end of the year. The Lacrosse is already out of production. Cruze production, of course, ended several months ago at he Lordstown, OH plant.
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-06-19 at 11:40 AM.
#760
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He could be just telling you that, to keep you on board for your next Buick. Sedans don’t sell as well as cross overs..... Salesman 101, make your current customers feel good....tell em’ what they want to hear....would be a bad sales move for this guy to tell you he agreed with Mary Barra
#761
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He could be just telling you that, to keep you on board for your next Buick. Sedans don’t sell as well as cross overs..... Salesman 101, make your current customers feel good....tell em’ what they want to hear....would be a bad sales move for this guy to tell you he agreed with Mary Barra
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-06-19 at 03:14 PM.
#762
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I ran into the sales-rep who sold me both my Verano and present Lacrosse at Red Lobster today (seems that we both like the food and the servers there), and we discussed the plant-closings over a nice lunch. Seems he is just as mad, if not more, about the closings and elimination of sedans as I am....although he is not quite as vocal about it as I am. Like me, he doesn't buy Mary Barra's public explanations for it (and, from what he tells me, neither does most of the staff at the dealership). For example, he sells a lot of Chevy Cruzes, even more than some of the SUV models....and, since the dealership did away with the former policy of allowing salespeople to take home vehicles at night, he bought a Cruze for himself as his daily driver and personal car. According to him, the Impala is now a special-order vehicle...although it is unclear just how long that will last, as the Hamtramck plant is scheduled to close at the end of the year. The Lacrosse is already out of production. Cruze production, of course, ended several months ago at he Lordstown, OH plant.
#763
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I understand perfectly what you are saying...and respect your viewpoint. Salespeople come in all types....from out-and-out crooks to basically honest people, and everywhere in between. As an ex-cop, this guy helped lock up a lot of dishonest people....so he has a basic sense of honesty himself. And he sells enough vehicles that he doesn't need to milk every customer he meets.
And, way above this level, it's obvious that GM is making a lot of mistakes, and ticking off a LOT of people, not just me and him. Although part of it is also due to the excellence of the new Ram pickups, nationwide, the Silverado, after decades of being in second place behind the F-150, has now fallen into third place. The new Blazer was disappointing from Day One....though not a complete sales-flop, its numbers have been clearly not what GM expected, and some groups are even boycotting it. Both GM and Ford have alienated not only a lot of potential buyers by their actions, but unions, consumer groups, local/state governments.....even up to the highest levels of the U.S. and Canadian national governments.
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-06-19 at 04:32 PM.
#764
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I agree with you. The guy we having been buying many Toyota’s for years is completely full of crap. But I like him. I love the crap he spews.