Toys4RJill

mmarshall

Independent of any tariff-sourced effects, that would make at least some sense...they wouldn't have very far to be shipped by truck or train after reaching the Seattle port and being unloaded off the ship.

Also begs the question of how many vehicles the Japanese plants can produce after all of the earthquake and typhoon damage they have had in the country lately.

JDR76

JDR76

TriC

The build quality on my Indiana manufactured '16 Sienna XLE is the same as my wife's made in Japan '16 RAV4 Hybrid Limited.

mmarshall

There's an old saying, particularly at American plants (which perhaps might make some sense), that Monday and Friday cars are generally more risky than those built in the middle of the week. That's because workers, on a Friday, particularly in the afternoon, have their minds more on Friday Night parties and what they are going to do over the weekend than on the job at hand...the car in front of them. Monday mornings, of course, are often accompanied by the Blues and a sense of depression...the start of a new work-week. Oh, yes....and possible hangovers.

The work culture/ethic is somewhat different in Japan, where workers, managers, and companies all have a different (and more co-operative) attitude towards each other than what is typical in the U.S., so the typical Monday/Friday risks here may (?) not be as pronounced in that culture.

SW17LS

This is all just BS. Factories operate on a 7 day schedule. You have shift workers who are coming on and coming off. Every day is some workers Friday and some workers Monday. Some workers get off work at 10AM, and some start work at 3PM.

mmarshall

I'm not necessarily sold on the old concept of Monday/Friday Lemons myself, particularly in this day of robots and automation. I mentioned it, though, because, in American culture, it was popularly believed for decades, particularly before so many things became automated. Japanese culture, in contrast, is significantly different...although much of their auto-assembly-process is automated, too.

SW17LS

Its just an old wives tale.

Sulu

The USA, Mexico and Canada recently negotiated an update to NAFTA (now called USMCA by Mr. Trump) but it has NOT yet been ratified by Congress nor the legislatures in Canadian and Mexican. Until it is, NAFTA remains in effect. Although Mr. Trump has threatened to cancel NAFTA, he has not done so, and NAFTA remains in effect.

There are no automotive tariffs under NAFTA.

mmarshall

Not sure about Canada and its Constitution, but, in the U.S, how much Congress gets involved (and votes on) depends on whether it is considered simply a trade agreement or a formal treaty. If a treaty, Congress must approve it.

corradoMR2

Jill. A bit disappointing to see the misalignment and gaps. Though a colleague of mine saw it last Thursday and was very happy with it. He's particular to interior fit and finish and said it was an improvement to the last gen. Might be (and hopefully is) just a bad initial batch to what you saw so far.

mmarshall

I had earlier thought that myself, but Toyota, in general, is usually not in the habit of sending half-assembled early-production models, even with traditional first-year teething. Of course, I have to admit that one of the initial C-HRs I sat in had some inexcusable defects inside.....worse than the things that Jill saw in the RAV-4.

JDR76

Thank goodness that's not really true, as Monday and Friday equate to 40% of the work week.

Hoovey689

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Did you look at just the one? I think the Rav4 interior you saw might of been a poor representation of the new generation, and some will slip through the cracks. But the majority will be tight.