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Old 12-20-18, 06:35 PM
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Default 2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback recalled to replace the CVT

Not a great sign for the seemingly innovative continuous variable transmission



Toyota is issuing a recall for the 2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback. The recall is for automatic Corollas only, because the culprit is the new "Direct Shift-CVT" Toyota introduced for the first time in this car. About 3,400 Corollas will be coming back to U.S. dealerships to have the entire transmission replaced.

Toyota says that, "there is a possibility that due to a manufacturing error, the blades of the pump impeller in the torque converter may detach, causing damage to the torque converter and potential loss of motive power."

Toyota's new CVT, which will also be found in the upcoming 2020 Corolla Sedan, is a totally new design for the company known best for its cars' reliability. The transmission uniquely consists of a single launch gear essentially attached to a continuously variable transmission. Utilizing an actual gear when taking off from a stop is more efficient than relying solely on the CVT, which in turn, can use a smaller pulley and thus improve reaction times at higher speeds. We found it performed impressively during our Corolla Hatchback first drive.

Needless to say, though, the torque converter didn't detach during that drive. Toyota is apparently in the process of obtaining new parts, so it can put new transmissions in all the affected cars. Toyota does not detail whether any crashes or injuries have resulted as a consequence of this issue yet.
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Old 12-20-18, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411

Not a great sign for the seemingly innovative continuous variable transmission

A rediculous overreaction by you. I am sure there are instances on a greater scale than this with a non continuous transmission

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
A ridiculous overreaction by you. I am sure there are instances on a greater scale than this with a non continuous transmission
That headline was the one that Autoblog put on its article; it was NOT Hoovey's headline.

I agree that it is a clickbait headline but it is a not-unexpected swipe against Toyota by Autoblog.
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I frankly think it's an interesting design if they can get it perfected. It will retain much of the CVT's efficiency without subjecting the driver and passengers to the annoying motorboat-starts of the typical CVT. The upcoming Lexus UX, BTW, uses a similar (if not identical) design.
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Hopefully they caught it on time for the UX.
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Originally Posted by corradoMR2
Hopefully they caught it on time for the UX.
I sure these models are very early batch units.
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You should be buying the manual version anyway.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
You should be buying the manual version anyway.

That was the whole idea of the CVTs and dual-clutch auto-manuals, though......to give manual-transmission efficiency and performance without having to wear your left knee out in traffic.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
A rediculous overreaction by you. I am sure there are instances on a greater scale than this with a non continuous transmission
LOL see Sulu's post

Also since you're getting snippy, it's spelled 'ridiculous' not 'rediculous'

Originally Posted by Sulu
That headline was the one that Autoblog put on its article; it was NOT Hoovey's headline.

I agree that it is a clickbait headline but it is a not-unexpected swipe against Toyota by Autoblog.
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Thanks Sulu

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Hopefully they caught it on time for the UX.
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
You should be buying the manual version anyway.
+1 for the manual - screw traffic, leave earlier for work!

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It seems to me that if Toyota goes all-hybrid in the near future then this transmission goes away anyway. The hybrid "eCVT" transmission design is completely different. No pulleys or belts at all, just basically a bulletproof planetary gearset.
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Originally Posted by riredale
It seems to me that if Toyota goes all-hybrid in the near future then this transmission goes away anyway. The hybrid "eCVT" transmission design is completely different. No pulleys or belts at all, just basically a bulletproof planetary gearset.
That is one reason to go with the UX250h and the proven eCVT vs the UX200 and new DCVT

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Originally Posted by riredale
It seems to me that if Toyota goes all-hybrid in the near future then this transmission goes away anyway. The hybrid "eCVT" transmission design is completely different. No pulleys or belts at all, just basically a bulletproof planetary gearset.
This new transmission is new. I doubt anyone cares about the different between the step CVT and an eCVT. But if you want to tell me that people really care about it, then all good. Very few people knew this information.

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Originally Posted by bagwell
+1 for the manual - screw traffic, leave earlier for work!

Ha......you don't live in Northern Virginia. You can get up at 4 AM on weekday and still have traffic.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
You should be buying the manual version anyway.
It's lame how this daily commuter car has a manual (along with toyota safety sense) while the zupra ( a "sports car" if it doesn't get tucked away for the weekend) doesn't
Sorry, I had to take my morning jab at that
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