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Old 01-17-20, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
A good review. $57K is a decent starting price, I think.
I fully expect the U.S. price to be well under $57K. Genesis is able to command much higher pricing in its home Korean market.

For example, the G80 with the 3.8 V6 starts at (direct KRW to USD conversion) of over $46,000 vs, the U.S. at $42,550.


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Old 01-17-20, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
I fully expect the U.S. price to be well under $57K. Genesis is able to command much higher pricing in its home Korean market.

For example, the G80 with the 3.8 V6 starts at (direct KRW to USD conversion) of over $46,000 vs, the U.S. at $42,550.
Interesting. Never knew the home market had more expensive prices. I guess they could play around with the standard option features to keep the price lower.
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I'm really loving the GV80. At first glance, it was meh but after looking at the exterior and interior photos from different perspectives, it's a beautiful looking SUV. It definitely has way more tech than any of the Lexus offerings. Genesis has a homerun here.

I really love this comment from the Head of R&D
Genesis doesn't do front-wheel drive. Not yet. "A front-wheel-drive platform wouldn't be authentic to the brand," said Albert Biermann
I will leave it at that. Lexus use to be predominantly RWD/AWD but it seems like they are moving over to FWD/AWD.
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Old 01-17-20, 08:38 AM
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Here's a quote from C&D from their writeup of the GV80. "One more bet: We'd wager that the GV80 will outsell Genesis’ entire sedan lineup in less than a year." A pretty safe bet IMO.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...ign=nl19152022
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Here's a quote from C&D from their writeup of the GV80. "One more bet: We'd wager that the GV80 will outsell Genesis’ entire sedan lineup in less than a year." A pretty safe bet IMO.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...ign=nl19152022
i think it's possible, but a g70 refresh will bring more sales and a new g80 is coming too, but we all know how large sporty sedans are not selling.
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Old 01-17-20, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MX73
I'm really loving the GV80. At first glance, it was meh but after looking at the exterior and interior photos from different perspectives, it's a beautiful looking SUV. It definitely has way more tech than any of the Lexus offerings. Genesis has a homerun here.

I really love this comment from the Head of R&D

I will leave it at that. Lexus use to be predominantly RWD/AWD but it seems like
they are moving over to FWD/AWD.
Genesis will have FWD at some point.
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Old 01-17-20, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Here's a quote from C&D from their writeup of the GV80. "One more bet: We'd wager that the GV80 will outsell Genesis’ entire sedan lineup in less than a year." A pretty safe bet IMO.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...ign=nl19152022
Well, considering corporate cousins already raising prices on the Telluride (58k units sold in 19) and Palisade (28k units sold), that is a very safe bet...
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...rice-increase/

I may be remembering incorrectly, but when Buick launched the Encore, it zoomed to be their #1 seller representing 40% of the brand's sales. I'd expect something similar for Genesis.
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Old 01-17-20, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
was not expecting this comment:
These active noise cancellation systems in cars, I've never experienced one I felt worked,

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Genesis will have FWD at some point.
Genesis has specifically said they will not have any FWD cars,
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Very interesting to see how Genesis will market and price it. They also need to build out their dealer network to achieve any meaningful volume.

Hopefully the leasing programs will be aggressive to get momentum.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
They also need to build out their dealer network to achieve any meaningful volume.
Absolutely essential to any achievable success
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Love everything about it except....the damn tachometer.! Why reinvent the wheel here...tach should go clockwise!!!!
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Originally Posted by PWMDMD
Love everything about it except....the damn tachometer.! Why reinvent the wheel here...tach should go clockwise!!!!
What difference does it make? This is an SUV that only comes with an automatic gearbox. In a sportscar with a manual transmission, I agree.
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Originally Posted by oldcajun
What difference does it make? This is an SUV that only comes with an automatic gearbox. In a sportscar with a manual transmission, I agree.
Why does a clock work clockwise? There's no reason you can't make a clock that works counter-clockwise except by convention everyone is used to a clock working a certain way. It not that you couldn't read a counter-clockwise clock but it would take you a few moments more to think about it and process something that should take zero thought and be second nature if it was done the conventional way. The counter-clockwise tach adds nothing and it unnecessarily breaks a convention that my brain has been observing for 25 years. Even when tachs are digital and they aren't round they still always work left to right.

Certain conventions shouldn't be broken unless there's a really good reason...I don't see any good reason here other than trying to be different.
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I have five Genesis "retailers" in my area with an inventory ranging from 18-31 vehicles - these are all in the greater Boston area. I do not believe any of them are actual standalone Genesis dealerships yet but I could be wrong. To get me out of a Lexus and into a Genesis it would have to be a similar dealership experience. At least in this area, it's a drastically difference experience buying and servicing a vehicle at my local Lexus dealership compared to my local Honda dealership or (gag) my local Toyota dealership which literally feels like I'm walking into a prison.
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Old 01-18-20, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PWMDMD
To get me out of a Lexus and into a Genesis it would have to be a similar dealership experience. .
What difference does it make? Genesis will come to you and take your Genesis and take it the service department for you..no need to ever visit the dealer (which is probably just a Hyundai garage at the present time)
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