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Old 01-25-19, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
This is becuase you have no cake in the game.
I may definitely have a slice of cake with the next G80 AWD....or even the present one, depending on when they replace it.

Hiding these cars is big business, photographers make big money from spy photos.

Lots of money is spent on these new platforms and the companies need to keep things under wrap so that they can go tests and such.
I don't buy much of that argument....although I did say earlier that I agree some secrecy is probably needed in the early time-frame. While not everything can be done after dark, if it were that critical a matter for the manufacturers, they would do more testing at night, when it is much harder to get spy-photos. Notice how the body-wraps are usually colored black, which is almost impossible to photograph at night.

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Unless it's your project, they can do whatever the heck they want. If you want to make a car and keep it in plain sight then do it. Otherwise they have every right to hide it, plain and simple
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Old 01-25-19, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Unless it's your project, they can do whatever the heck they want. If you want to make a car and keep it in plain sight then do it. Otherwise they have every right to hide it, plain and simple

Yes, that's true, but ever hear of the old saying..........."What's legal isn't always prudent"? If I had a dollar for every dumb or questionable decision an auto manufacturer made (even if legal), I'd be richer than Donald Trump LOL.

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Old 01-25-19, 06:22 PM
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I just don't understand why you think you have the right to look at their new model before they're ready to unveil it...
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Old 01-25-19, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I just don't understand why you think you have the right to look at their new model before they're ready to unveil it...
Actually, I don't raise as much stink as a lot of other car enthusiasts. I agree some secrecy is needed...especially in the early stages.

Besides, if people don't really care, as you claim, then why hide it in the first place? Not much is actually gained from it.
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I've never heard anybody complain about this until you have right now.
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Old 01-25-19, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Actually, I don't raise as much stink as a lot of other car enthusiasts. I agree some secrecy is needed...especially in the early stages.

Besides, if people don't really care, as you claim, then why hide it in the first place? Not much is actually gained from it.
I suppose you could see if the Genesis brand would let you take a peek at GV80 if you promise not to tell anyone.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I've never heard anybody complain about this until you have right now.
I've mentioned it here on CL several times before, but you're correct that it will not likely change anything.
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Old 01-25-19, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
I suppose you could see if the Genesis brand would let you take a peek at GV80 if you promise not to tell anyone.
Give me a nice enough bribe and I'll let you in on it......then someone else can bribe you LOL.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I've mentioned it here on CL several times before, but you're correct that it will not likely change anything.
Let me rephrase that. I've never heard anybody but you actually complain about this.
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Anyhow......going past the disguises, when the GV80 does finally debut (apparently late in 2019), it will be interesting to see who actually buys or leases it.....and/or whether or not it takes away sales from other upmarket/premium-class SUVs.


Anybody want to guess or discuss what other SUV brand(s) could be affected the most, and why?....although that might be a topic for another thread.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Anyhow......going past the disguises, when the GV80 does finally debut (apparently late in 2019), it will be interesting to see who actually buys or leases it.....and/or whether or not it takes away sales from other upmarket/premium-class SUVs.


Anybody want to guess or discuss what other SUV brand(s) could be affected the most, and why?....although that might be a topic for another thread.
I doubt the established brands really have to worry.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I doubt the established brands really have to worry.
I agree...at least with any serious worries. But the GV80 is going to expand the image of Genesis (which, before, was limited to sedans), and maybe get more people into the showroom. And the smaller GV70 is (supposedly) also on the horizon.
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I believe the GV80 will be a 3-row? And compete with the Q7, X7, GLS, QX60, RXL, MDX, but likely to undercut the Germans and be in line with the Japanese's pricing.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I doubt the established brands really have to worry.
i know that's what you want, but there's no way of knowing.

if it's
- technologically superior in some ways
- costs a whole bunch less
- rides and drives at least as well
- and remember it comes with free maintenance...

it will make a dent.
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